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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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[Applause]

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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for

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the

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masses

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uh yeah man

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how you doing today is wednesday july

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20th

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2022.

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black

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for kjcr the game changer and on x

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networks i am your host jimmy church

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what is cracking

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how you doing

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tonight what a week on fade to black

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very special guest richard bleepin dolan

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disclosure

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tomorrow night

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on this program

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linda moulton howe

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that's right tomorrow night's contact

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no fader night this week

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and uh so there you go

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phone lines are fixed though got that

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issue worked out today

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90 minutes

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a customer service rep but they got it

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fixed

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they did it wasn't me you think you

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would think you know hey hey hey hey hey

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i mean it's too easy right it's too easy

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too easy it must be me but it wasn't

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and uh we got to fix though we got it

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and uh so uh but there's no fader night

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this week

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so there you go

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and uh

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now i had something to say

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and uh i can't remember what it was oh

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my alien my cow abduction video today

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and uh jessica rodriguez man

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here's the box you got the boxes

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is awesome

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and uh you got to go see the video

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yourself but here's

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and uh

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and i was like you've got to be kidding

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me this is great

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and uh it even came with

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uh the latest uh updated edition

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of the cow abduction chronicles it's a

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it's a full-length book

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let's go let's go

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let's go richard bleepin dolan is on the

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show tonight oh i know what i was going

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uh the audiobook with whitley uh for

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and i i'm going just to

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tell all of you

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go and get the audiobook for communion

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and you've had you've heard whitley

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enough over the years you know his voice

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it's it's it's just incredible and so i

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just wanted to share that with everybody

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and get it go and get communion

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audio if you have audible it's right

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there and it's it's very cool okay you

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know if you've got an audio sub uh

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audible subscription like i do

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i don't know what level i have but i get

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like four or five credits a month and

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there's always a credit or two just

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sitting there

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get it get it it's amazing

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all right i am going to be in in just

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well in three weeks three weeks next

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month tuesday night august 16th i will

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be at upars here in los angeles in

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studio city california and upars is back

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after taking a two-year break

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and we're going to have

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myself of course i'll be speaking but

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i'm going to have some friends some

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special guests there

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and i just want to let everybody know

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it is uh

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uh limited seating 200 seats that's it

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so it's uh it's going to sell out and i

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want if you i would love to see you

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now i had just mentioned now uh let me

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pull this up on my calendar

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i mentioned last night that

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i am going to be in joshua tree

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september

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to get over there

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richard what are you doing richard

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oh richard popped in here he he sent me

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a text to

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over that richard nobody can hear you as

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a matter of fact you have to sign

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and so i'm gonna be in joshua tree and

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we are going to do a private sky watch

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uh if you want to go

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um you have to

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head over to

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forbiddenclub.com forbiddenclub.com

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and you have to mint

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10

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nfts

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you go over to forbidden club that's

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with the number four forbidden club

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that's billy carson's club

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and you mint

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10 nfts over at forbidden club you will

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get

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a forbidden black card i have i've

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showed everybody my forbidden black card

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and uh richard dolan's got his forbidden

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black card too as well you'll get issued

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one of those and then you will get an

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invite

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to our private

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sky watch and we are going to do a sky

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watch in joshua tree at the joshua tree

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retreat center you know where they used

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to do contact in the desert

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we booked that place and then

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we're going to go over to giant rock

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and we may do giant rock first

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we're going to go do a sky watch at

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giant rock we're going to be live

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streaming and we're going to do a sky

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watch in joshua tree it's going to be an

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extraordinary weekend so all you have to

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and mint

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10

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you'll get your black card and you're

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going to get an invitation to come and

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hang out with us all right all right now

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uh get your free membership to the nx

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network you can do that right now go

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over to nxnetwork.com

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you'll get the free monthly newsletter

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oh i just got the new magazine

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and i've got a full page ad in there

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it's really cool um

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you'll get the monthly newsletter you

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get blog access you get event notices

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get a free digital copy of their

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quarterly magazine which i just got my

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issue

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check it all out at on xnetwork.com

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and

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right now eden pure

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is extending their bogo sale for you

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fade or not for another week

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and i want you to get these are the best

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ear uh

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air purifiers in the world i have one

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here in the bunker i have one in my car

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i have one in my kitchen i just got

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another one up in my bedroom i need that

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up there i've got one in my home gym

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that's right i i this is what i'm going

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to let everybody know

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richard dolan and i

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every day

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we work out together on facetime that's

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richard gets on his bike i get on my

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bike and we face time together when we

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listen to like run dmc

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you know he likes nwa um but i like i

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like some of the uh other old school

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stuff and we and we work out every day

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and we when we do that

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you start to smell and that's why i had

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to put my eden pure thunderstorm in my

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home gym and

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i think tracy told richard he's got to

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air purify

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their home gym too as well but that's a

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whole other story the links for all of

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our sponsors

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are below they are in social media they

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are over on our website and you can

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follow me right now

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on twitter at j church radio the sandbox

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always is hashtag f2b

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right here on twitter let's get to the

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breaking news

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spacex back in the news

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richard i gotta focus bro i gotta focus

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i gotta focus

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spacex rockets and spacecraft will soon

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come with a new tag

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made by mattel

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mattel has entered into a multi-year

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agreement with spacex to create and

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market toys inspired by

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spacex's launch vehicles

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the first products under partnership

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will be released in 2023 as a part of

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mattel's matchbox line of die-cast cars

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as well as through mutton mattel's

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collaboration and direct to consumer

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platform

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mattel creations no details were

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released about what specific space x

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sets were coming next year other than

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mattel creations line would include

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elevated collectibles i don't even know

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what that means

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plasma physicist

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they did it now

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after

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my show last night on

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our humans e.t

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and my talk about the sun and fusion and

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where we are right now don't think this

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is all a pipe dream all right i gave you

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all the stats

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last night now listen to this

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plasma physicists have achieved a

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nuclear fusion reactor temperature

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of more than

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135 million degrees fahrenheit at the

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google-funded norman reactor right here

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in california this is many times hotter

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than the core of the sun which is a

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relatively balmy 27 million degrees

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fahrenheit or 10 million degrees

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fahrenheit depends on who you ask i

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guess i told you last night it was 10

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million degrees the temperature was

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achieved by scientists at tae

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technologies who operate norman which

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was unveiled in 2017 and initially

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designed to keep plasma stable at 54

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million degrees fahrenheit through

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improvements

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have been

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made following life-altering surgery

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ozzy osbourne was seen using a cane this

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past sunday he was over at a son's house

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jack

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at uh his los angeles home and the rock

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star now 73 years old was joined by his

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wife sharon their children kelly and

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jack and ozzy walked outside to leave

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obviously

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followed by the paparazzi and tmz and he

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was dressed in a black t-shirt and

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matching pants and appeared to rely

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heavily on the walking stick

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that has a golden handle

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all right well i think it's finally

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about to go down supersonic jets are

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back

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boom supersonic the company building the

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world's fastest airliner optimized for

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speed safety and sustainability

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right supersonic sustainability today

344
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presented a refined design of the

345
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overture their plane and also announced

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a new partnering agreement with northrop

347
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grumman to develop special mission

348
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variants

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of the aircraft i guess they're going to

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military militarize this thing carrying

351
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65 to 80 passengers at twice the speed

352
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of today's airliners and running on 100

353
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sustainable aviation fuel it's called

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saf

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overture will fly mach 1.7 over water

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with a range of 4 250 nautical miles

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earlier this year

358
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bloom announced its selection of the

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piedmont triad area

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for its first overture super factory and

361
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remains on track to begin production

362
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in 2024. now astronomers have detected

363
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another mysterious radio signal that is

364
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pulsing rhythmically

365
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like a

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heartbeat it's coming from deep deep

367
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is a fast radio burst frb

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an intensely strong flash of radio waves

369
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this time around coming from an unknown

370
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point of origin now

371
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most frbs last only a few milliseconds

372
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at most but the new signal is much

373
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longer it's about three seconds

374
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making it the longest frb ever

375
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discovered moreover it produces burst of

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radio waves that repeat every 200

377
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milliseconds

378
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in a heartbeat like rhythm

379
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making it the frb with the clearest

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periodic pattern ever detected

381
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the researchers published their findings

382
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this past july 13th

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in the journal nature

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absolutely incredible

385
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,679
heartbeat right that reminds me of the

386
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movie contact let's get this show

387
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:57,919
cracking on this day in history

388
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1969

389
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:02,799
did it happen well

390
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:05,840
neil armstrong

391
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000 miles from earth

392
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speaks these words

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that's one small step for man

394
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one giant leap for mankind

395
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stepping off of the lunar landing module

396
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eagle he became the first human to walk

397
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on the surface of the moon but

398
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he hasn't talked to jay widener

399
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:30,240
all right fader facts

400
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:35,110
now

401
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richard dolan is with us tonight

402
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:39,919
he is

403
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:44,720
he knows everything

404
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:47,760
and i found out earlier this week his

405
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:50,720
dissertation when he attempted his phd

406
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:53,679
he didn't get it but his dissertation

407
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:56,159
was on eleanor roosevelt

408
00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:59,919
and eleanor roosevelt he told me and he

409
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,600
said i wrote up the paper jimmy i'll

410
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:03,520
show it to you i said okay

411
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:06,159
he said that she held her own press

412
00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,360
conferences

413
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where only female journalists were

414
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,360
allowed

415
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,600
and i said that's my fader fact tonight

416
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,440
richard thank you for that

417
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,440
eleanor roosevelt held her own press

418
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conferences where only female

419
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:22,320
journalists were allowed

420
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:23,919
and that's your fate or fact tonight we

421
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:25,200
welcome

422
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:27,600
very special guest richard dolan is with

423
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:30,480
us calling the show disclosure 2.0

424
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,240
and uh richard said to me earlier

425
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,159
tonight he goes jimmy disclosure 2.0

426
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:36,480
what is this disclosure thing

427
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,240
and i said richard you'll get through

428
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:40,799
the show you'll be all right you'll make

429
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:43,200
it you'll make it and tomorrow night

430
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:46,640
linda moulton how's back for contact 2.0

431
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:49,440
and there was no fader night this week

432
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,270
oh man you know

433
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:03,280
at this point of the show

434
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:06,720
i usually uh uh talk about river moon

435
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:07,760
coffee

436
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:10,240
do a couple of more pitches for my

437
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,230
[Music]

438
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,120
rivermoonwellness.com best coffee in the

439
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:21,280
world but you know what

440
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,159
um no i've got this guy

441
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:26,880
that is interrupting me with text

442
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,120
messages so i'm going to interrupt him

443
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,679
right now richard look at the screen

444
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:33,039
that's right

445
00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:40,950
you're give away my eleanor roosevelt's

446
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:41,420
secret

447
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,760
[Laughter]

448
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:45,360
and uh

449
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:47,360
hey richard uh it's a good thing i

450
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,720
interrupted you do you have a fan

451
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:50,080
blowing

452
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,200
okay

453
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:53,280
i have central air happening i'm not

454
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:59,430
that stays on

455
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,039
or else i die

456
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:03,360
you know i'm sitting i needed to live

457
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,120
and see this i'm gonna let everybody

458
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:07,280
know what richard richard

459
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:08,640
when we come back after the break i'll

460
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,159
do a proper introduction but um and and

461
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,320
we'll do all of our normal things but

462
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:16,000
this i got to tell everybody what

463
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:17,280
richard's doing

464
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,559
richard's texting me and then watching

465
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,559
for my reaction

466
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,559
and he's just he's you know when he's

467
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,799
blowing up your phone when you're

468
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,400
anything you told everyone about our

469
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:30,799
facetime workouts i'm very upset about

470
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,320
that i know i know i know i know and

471
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,480
and only tracy knew about that but now

472
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:38,640
the rest of the world

473
00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:42,720
stay in shape man when you get to our

474
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:44,080
age

475
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,279
old i just turned 60 by the way i know

476
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,159
i'm about to turn 59. and richard and i

477
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:54,480
richard and i had this conversation last

478
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:55,520
year

479
00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:00,000
and we were sitting um outside and and

480
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,240
we were deep in conversation and richard

481
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:04,000
turns to me and he goes church how old

482
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:04,960
are you

483
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:08,400
and and i said you know and i said i

484
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,400
said i'm i'm 57 i'm gonna turn 58.

485
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,559
and you said we're the same age how come

486
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:16,799
you look so much better than i do and i

487
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:24,149
but we we had that conversation about

488
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:27,760
our ages and where we are right now

489
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:30,400
um with our lives and that you know what

490
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:34,080
right now is not the time to relax

491
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,000
you remind me a lot of my father because

492
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:37,919
at the end of his life his mind also

493
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,310
he started remembering things

494
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:43,600
differently i'm like that's not how that

495
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:50,950
but yeah yeah you have a lot like him

496
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:53,039
yeah i mean it was it was just kind of

497
00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:56,640
funny that um we had that conversation

498
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:57,440
and

499
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:58,799
it was um

500
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,520
it was you can only have the right

501
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,679
conversation when you're with somebody

502
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:05,039
when you're at this you know you're the

503
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:06,240
same age

504
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,600
and you kind of gauge each other so

505
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,360
where are you at that's so true that is

506
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,679
so true

507
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,600
my head's cool how you doing i'm doing

508
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,440
okay are we gonna get through this is

509
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,600
that a pitch

510
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,760
in that place

511
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,840
it won't stop man

512
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,760
do you have it i do but it's on this

513
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,919
side

514
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:27,679
but

515
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:31,520
um uh here's the thing uh you

516
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:34,320
you had a a show last night apparently

517
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,799
where you knocked it out of the park

518
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,679
and

519
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,440
a lot of people are talking about it

520
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,520
today wow that's good i'm glad to hear

521
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,159
that uh so we're doing a little pre-show

522
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,720
a little pre-show conversation right now

523
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,679
um

524
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:49,600
did you i'm delighted to be brought on

525
00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,159
early james it's very nice

526
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,080
well because this does what we're doing

527
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,919
now wouldn't necessarily be part of the

528
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,600
show i would never ask you about your

529
00:26:02,149 --> 00:25:59,440
show and how it went

530
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:02,159
but did you did you hold something back

531
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:03,279
for me

532
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,720
because if you knocked it out of the

533
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:05,919
park

534
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,520
um did you did you did you swing did you

535
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,360
did you go for it do i have anything

536
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,360
left do i have anything left in the tank

537
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,520
answer yes of course

538
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,600
and of course and what what was it that

539
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,919
everybody uh i've i've heard a few

540
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,320
different words yeah i don't know i just

541
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,559
kind of got into it uh

542
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:26,960
i mean honestly i don't know if it was

543
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,520
radically different than than the themes

544
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,039
that i've been covering

545
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,159
i don't do youtube shows every week uh

546
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:35,840
as i used to i'll do them a couple of

547
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:38,640
times a month and so this one i called

548
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,880
it giving the ufo cover up another

549
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:43,200
facelift or something like that

550
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,799
and i think that

551
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:47,760
we're looking at a new phase of ufo

552
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:50,640
secrecy and i do mean secrecy i know we

553
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:53,840
you know we've seen a number of years of

554
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,799
relative openness about ufos you know to

555
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,159
you talked about today being an

556
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,960
anniversary of july 20th the neil

557
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:02,799
armstrong buzz aldrin on the moon

558
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,240
yesterday was another anniversary it was

559
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:06,799
the 70th anniversary of the first night

560
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,000
of the washington dc ufo overflight so

561
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,240
that was july 19 1952

562
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,760
and i talked a little bit about that

563
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,679
because when you

564
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,840
uh you got the two weekends of sightings

565
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,200
and then there was the big air force

566
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:21,679
press conference that was headed by a

567
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,799
four-star general john alexander samford

568
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,720
he later became director of the nsa he

569
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:28,000
was big shot

570
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and he's up there and he's talking about

571
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ufos i mean

572
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,880
saying that well you know we've got this

573
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under control

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you know credible report relatively

575
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incredible reports from incredible

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credible people

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00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,600
and i was thinking you know two months

578
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,360
ago we had the uap congress

579
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,159
congressional hearings and

580
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,320
it was like exactly the same line that

581
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samford was giving 70 years ago it's

582
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like we we've graduated to where we were

583
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to the level of bs and and concealment

584
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that we were at

585
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:04,720
oh 70 years ago think about it

586
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:08,000
the us military acknowledged ufos 70

587
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,480
years ago kind of they said yeah there's

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things out there we feel that we can

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00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,159
identify them all given the resources

590
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,840
that is exactly what the pentagon said

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two months ago

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00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:19,279
now

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the age-old adage right

594
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as things have changed but they've still

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stayed the same right yes that's right

596
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yeah yeah

597
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we've we've graduated to where we were

598
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70 years ago and the reason we've

599
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graduated because for the last

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almost the last 50 years since uh the

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late you know the 70s and 80s and onward

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the government was in total denial of

603
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ufos like they weren't even at the level

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of the 1950s which was bad

605
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so they had gone uh

606
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they had gone even you know worse than

607
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that

608
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i remember back uh when obama was

609
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president steve bassett did a you know

610
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the obama administration had this uh you

611
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could petition the government i forget

612
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:04,480
what it was called and then they they

613
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,000
pulled it anyway but

614
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but steve bassett jumped on that and he

615
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said well all i need is a couple of

616
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thousand signatures hell sure so he did

617
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a disclosure petition to get the obama

618
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white house to talk about ufos

619
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:17,679
they did everything possible to to avoid

620
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:19,760
that but they eventually had to

621
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,840
and this is in what 2011 2012 and they

622
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,679
gave just a total lie they just lied

623
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:26,960
they're like oh yeah there's no we have

624
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,440
no interest in ufos we're not studying

625
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:31,200
that and of course they had a tip going

626
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on at the time

627
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,399
of course they lied

628
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:36,720
and so we we've been at this

629
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,000
deep deep level of government dishonesty

630
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,320
to the people on this very important

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matter of ufos ufos is very very

632
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important

633
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,720
and so now in the last few years we're

634
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:50,720
able to talk a little bit more about it

635
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,880
in the media so we've really gotten back

636
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,480
up to the point where we were in the

637
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,159
1950s

638
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,000
let's take the same level of denial as

639
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,399
in the 1950s let's take our break right

640
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:02,240
here it's a pretty good pre-show thank

641
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,760
you so much

642
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,600
we'll be right back we'll talk about

643
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,840
eleanor roosevelt yeah well come back

644
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,760
and talk about eleanor roosevelt not

645
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:12,000
many people know

646
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:15,360
richard deep and dolan thank you so much

647
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,840
for coming in early we'll be right back

648
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,320
i am your host jimmy church

649
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tonight it is richard bleep and dolan

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this is fade to black tomorrow night

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right after this short break

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[Music]

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00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,270
welcome back fade to black i am your

760
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,040
host jimmy church tonight richard bleep

761
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,839
and dolan is with us

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we're going to talk about disclosure 2.0

763
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:45,920
what is the future of us and more

764
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importantly what are the facts

765
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,520
he's one of the world's leading

766
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,200
researchers and writers on the subject

767
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:52,640
of ufos and believes that they

768
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,800
constitute the greatest mystery of our

769
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,520
time he completed his graduate work at

770
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,280
the university of rochester where he

771
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:02,000
studied u.s cold war strategy european

772
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,599
history and eleanor roosevelt he is the

773
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:07,599
author of ufos in the national security

774
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,320
state a.d after disclosure ufos in the

775
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,440
21st century mine and allegedly

776
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,280
he's got a new book coming uh that's

777
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,119
going to be the follow-up to his

778
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,760
mini-book series alien agendas a

779
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,480
speculative analysis of those visiting

780
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,320
earth that's right i would like to

781
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welcome back to fade to black the one

782
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,920
and only richard bleep and dolan i've

783
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:29,520
written

784
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,599
uh a new biography for you uh a new bio

785
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,440
yes i see that i i need to read it so

786
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,320
that i can learn what's in it

787
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,800
so uh i didn't know that i was an actor

788
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,800
some people are actually going to think

789
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:44,400
that i'm in some eleanor roosevelt

790
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:45,520
scholar

791
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:46,480
uh

792
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,520
and they're going to think that we do

793
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:50,160
face face time workouts yes

794
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,839
you're going to get them to think that

795
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,000
you know i like i i like your deflection

796
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,720
on that and and so therefore

797
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,960
you are i like it as well

798
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:00,400
you're hoping that

799
00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:03,280
somebody's going to believe one of our

800
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,119
bs statements

801
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:06,640
one of us is telling

802
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:09,440
and one of this is not

803
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confident

804
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:12,400
you feel pretty cocky right now i'm

805
00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:13,599
confident here yeah i think i'll be

806
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,790
[Laughter]

807
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:20,800
what was the last song you listened to

808
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:23,760
today oh god

809
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:25,520
um well

810
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:26,960
that's not interesting although i do

811
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,720
have a funny story about another song

812
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,480
that i will share with you

813
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,400
but uh today i had

814
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,880
at pandora i like my pandora stations i

815
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:36,320
that's some kind of classical thing

816
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:37,520
chopin

817
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,320
litz

818
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,880
and then we switched it to this uh kind

819
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:43,200
of like new agey feel good piano music

820
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which

821
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:46,560
seemed like a good idea at the time

822
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:48,839
i didn't know the names of any of those

823
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,760
yeah light piano light yeah it's not

824
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:53,280
it's not good but i i do want to tell

825
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,119
you i have a

826
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:57,680
i had an almost an argument with my

827
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,440
lovely wife tracy a few days ago over

828
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jethro tull

829
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so i will share this i have permission

830
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i have permission to share this

831
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,560
touchy subject that that tall

832
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:14,720
thing do you know do you know any let's

833
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:16,880
say do you know many women who actually

834
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like jethro tall it's just no it's not

835
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part of the demographic

836
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no

837
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yeah and it's it's so i happened to like

838
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jethro tullum and

839
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i had uh i was playing

840
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,440
songs from the wood right that's great

841
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,079
that's a great song and in that uh ian

842
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,240
andre and by the way the group is not

843
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:40,079
it's not a guy named jethro hotel i

844
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,599
remember in high school people would be

845
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:44,160
like i hate that guy jethro told

846
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,270
and he he played flute like ron burgundy

847
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:57,200
and anchorman you know maybe a little

848
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:58,880
bit almost as good

849
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:01,680
so in in songs from the wood he has

850
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,160
actually this badass flute solo in the

851
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:06,320
middle of the song and i have always

852
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:08,800
loved it i was 15 years old tripping out

853
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,920
to that

854
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,440
so i played it

855
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:13,440
a few days ago and i think i made the

856
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,440
mistake of having the volume a little

857
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:16,960
too high

858
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:18,800
and so tracey's in the living room she's

859
00:39:23,550 --> 00:39:21,200
just working and she said all right

860
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,560
that's it i have never

861
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,320
exercised my veto power

862
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:28,160
over the music in this house but i'm

863
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,520
doing it now

864
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,160
turn that off now

865
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,320
and i've i felt um

866
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,800
like oh wow i really crossed the line

867
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,920
here

868
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:42,550
did you defend the tall

869
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:45,040
i tried i did and she called it hobbit

870
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,480
rock

871
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,240
she said i'm not listening to hobbit

872
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,160
rock she's not that actually that was a

873
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:52,160
pretty good thing she's not wrong she's

874
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,839
not right no that was actually it was

875
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,920
pretty good i got to give that to her so

876
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:58,000
i thought on the basis of that dunk

877
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,200
alone

878
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:01,680
i had to i just had to take it down you

879
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,400
had to retreat you had to retreat

880
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,480
wow you had to retreat

881
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:08,079
sometimes you gotta let somebody else

882
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:09,680
take the beach man

883
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:12,319
you know what i mean it was

884
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:14,000
so um

885
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:16,960
uh she felt bad about this because she's

886
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:20,079
like oh great all of your people are old

887
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,040
like you and they're all gonna hate me

888
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,960
well you know

889
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,680
the tall is a touchy subject in that

890
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,000
they never became a super group they

891
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:31,760
were

892
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:34,160
yeah they they they never but they had

893
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,599
cult status

894
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:36,720
right they

895
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,349
so

896
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:49,520
you know they never got their due

897
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,280
and and part of that is they were the

898
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:54,640
name

899
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:57,520
and the image were different than the

900
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,640
music

901
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,119
right they weren't they weren't acquired

902
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,520
taste you know they weren't a heavy

903
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,079
metal band far from it no no and they

904
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,599
weren't even like they call them

905
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,160
progressive rock but no they weren't so

906
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:11,839
oh no it was like they were lumped in

907
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,839
there they're lumped in with that it was

908
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:15,119
like

909
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,480
but this was my question and yes um i

910
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,000
can't believe

911
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,560
we went down the jethro toll road okay

912
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,560
because this is my question the exact

913
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,440
opposite of that

914
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:37,280
ice cube

915
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,200
or when he went solo

916
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,720
it's funny that you mentioned me

917
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,280
connected to nwa i actually did listen

918
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,880
to some nwa

919
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,040
back when they were uh you know going

920
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:55,520
and i would have to say i'm not as i

921
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:58,720
know um or at least i remember

922
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:00,839
uh some of the originals so i would say

923
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,240
nwa but i'm not you know what am i i'm

924
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,760
i'm no expert

925
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:07,440
oh yeah you are

926
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:09,760
yeah i've i've seen i i've seen you

927
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,720
dance

928
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:13,280
of course he's really good on uh was

929
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:16,160
that show uh the law and order take off

930
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,520
what was that

931
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,440
no that was an ice cube you're thinking

932
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,040
of uh

933
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:24,000
uh ll cool j but that's okay richard

934
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:25,119
whatever

935
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,640
clean out too old

936
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,960
trace you know i'm not trying to

937
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,800
tracy come and help richard clean out

938
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:33,359
his stuff he's off the show

939
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,960
he's off the show take his mic away

940
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:38,480
take it away

941
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:41,839
i remember the rap music back in those

942
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:42,800
days

943
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:55,109
oh man all right okay we got we got the

944
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:58,160
music stuff out of the way

945
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,550
this is where i want to start um and i'm

946
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:07,280
glad you brought up samford and wasn't

947
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:08,079
he

948
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,480
was no no no no no

949
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,040
curtis lemay was the second one

950
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:17,359
right right samford was the guy that's

951
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,400
in that ufo documentary ufos

952
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,240
and yeah he's all over youtube like

953
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,880
anytime that there's a clip basically of

954
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,319
ufos from the 50s they're going to pull

955
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:28,400
out samford because he did that press

956
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:31,359
conference and at the end of july

957
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,160
after two weekends of significant

958
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:36,720
sightings of something over the capital

959
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:39,119
in washington d.c air force held its

960
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,800
largest press conference since the end

961
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,800
of the second world war and that was

962
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,800
awful he was briefed on this by the way

963
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,200
by roger raymie who was of course the

964
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,760
guy who five years earlier handled the

965
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:52,240
press with roswell and the

966
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:55,760
weather balloon apparatus

967
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,640
i've always wanted to talk

968
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:00,800
the way that they talked back then they

969
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:03,440
all talked the same they all had

970
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,920
this inflection

971
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:08,240
thing and they all spoke the same way

972
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:09,760
the radio guys

973
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,400
you know yeah see uh at the mid-atlantic

974
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,040
atlantic accent you know yeah part

975
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,040
eastern coast and a little bit with the

976
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:19,520
brits so they all crossed the atlantic

977
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:22,880
they all talked the same way harry grant

978
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,390
um but

979
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,800
but here's the thing

980
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,880
do you feel

981
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,000
that

982
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:37,040
over the last few months

983
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,000
things have chilled out

984
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,359
you know both from the pentagon um uh

985
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:45,760
of course you know tucker carlson is is

986
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,319
running silent the media's kind of

987
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:49,520
chilled out

988
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:50,400
and

989
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,520
the fervor that we have been building up

990
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:56,400
to over the last four years five years

991
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,920
disclosure and

992
00:45:03,190 --> 00:44:59,920
and everything else that

993
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,200
that now it's like run silent run deep

994
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,720
it's chilled out

995
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,040
that was that was actually um

996
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,040
i guess probably my my main theme when i

997
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,720
did my program last night i did a

998
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:12,720
youtube show last night

999
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:15,520
and i would say you know in the early

1000
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,760
years of of after 2017 right so

1001
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:21,760
tdsa is in the news and they were

1002
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,800
getting videos released and you know

1003
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,480
all of that was

1004
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,160
kind of a big thing at the time we all

1005
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,079
remember right

1006
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,560
and i was talking to one of the folks uh

1007
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,880
connected to some of the inside stuff

1008
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,720
there and um after one of the

1009
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:38,800
revelations he just said to me privately

1010
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,119
yep more toothpaste out of the tube

1011
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:42,960
and it was a really good expression and

1012
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,280
i use i've used it many times since

1013
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,760
myself to describe things but what i

1014
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,000
what i think is happening

1015
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,160
is that the toothpaste is being scooped

1016
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,920
and being pressed back into that tube as

1017
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,760
much as possible so i think we're seeing

1018
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,200
a walk back

1019
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,359
to the extent that is possible

1020
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:01,280
of the ufo revelations that have

1021
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,359
happened and there's there's potential

1022
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:05,440
for a great walk back frankly

1023
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:08,960
and i i do think i have an idea why

1024
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:11,680
and um yeah we can chat about that

1025
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:13,119
why

1026
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,599
all we have to answer the question what

1027
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:19,440
were the revelations of the last five

1028
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:20,480
years

1029
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,440
a cia op

1030
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:25,440
i have been arguing no

1031
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,680
and i continue to argue no that doesn't

1032
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,280
mean that there's not

1033
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,440
uh you know um

1034
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,599
ulterior motives that that the folks of

1035
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:36,079
ttsa had of course they had them

1036
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,440
everyone's got them

1037
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,760
but were they part of a coordinated

1038
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,280
operation

1039
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:43,040
to

1040
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:45,440
do some kind of disclosure uh

1041
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,400
predictably or presumably to like

1042
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,319
scare the public up to frighten them

1043
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,400
about aliens and drum up money for the

1044
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:54,319
military which you heard you know people

1045
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:55,680
say this from time to time i thought

1046
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,480
that was

1047
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:58,000
just ludicrous

1048
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,119
still do

1049
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:00,880
so i don't think that was the case uh

1050
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,280
what i believe then and i believe now is

1051
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,119
that those people

1052
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:07,119
constitute a faction

1053
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:08,079
and they're they're not like

1054
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,599
revolutionaries it's not like they're

1055
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,960
trying to take down the system like

1056
00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:13,599
chris mellon lou elizondo no hardly

1057
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,680
they're very

1058
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:17,040
establishment-oriented guys obviously

1059
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:19,920
they believe in the system but but

1060
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,200
people have to realize the ufo

1061
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,040
cover-up has always had factions they've

1062
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,440
always existed there they've never been

1063
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,880
just one group that says this is how

1064
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,440
it's going to be there they've

1065
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,200
frequently been

1066
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:35,280
uh groups within the military different

1067
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,880
parts of the military that have believed

1068
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:38,720
or tried to fight for a little more

1069
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,000
openness on ufos it's not new it's not

1070
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:44,079
unique and i think that's what we have

1071
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,760
seen here and so

1072
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,920
those people with help from people like

1073
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:50,000
leslie kane ralph blumenthal of the new

1074
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:51,119
york times

1075
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,079
a few other individuals

1076
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,079
yes i think they got a message up and

1077
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,680
when when they got leslie and ralph to

1078
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:59,599
do the articles for the times and and

1079
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:01,599
now looking back in retrospect i don't

1080
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:04,000
think there's any question that that

1081
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,880
leslie and ralph had to fight uh with

1082
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,480
the new york times

1083
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,319
upper management to get those that those

1084
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:12,480
two first two stories in there

1085
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,000
and that makes sense to me because the

1086
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,160
new york times has always been

1087
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,880
incredibly uh backward on this subject

1088
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:21,119
really working on behalf of the cover-up

1089
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,480
so what i think happened is that a

1090
00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:24,319
breakthrough was made

1091
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,319
with a lot of effort

1092
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,480
but you know think about it like there

1093
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,800
was never a runaway train here there

1094
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,280
were a number of leaks that came out

1095
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:35,520
the media never fully got behind all of

1096
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:36,240
this

1097
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,920
never yet tucker carlson sure who else

1098
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:42,079
basically no one else in in the major

1099
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,119
media

1100
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,119
so what i think happened yeah i know let

1101
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,040
me let me jump in though the first four

1102
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,800
or five months

1103
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:51,359
everybody was on board it was cnn it was

1104
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:55,599
bbc it was msnbc and the the running of

1105
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,480
those videos and david fravor yeah yeah

1106
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,880
that's right at a fairly low level i

1107
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:02,800
mean is there something out there what

1108
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:04,319
do these mean

1109
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:06,000
are these aliens like no one was saying

1110
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,549
that that part is

1111
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:12,960
yeah that well there was dancing i think

1112
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:15,359
everybody wanted somebody to

1113
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,599
uh to take the first step and say the

1114
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,079
words right but but they had there had

1115
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,319
to be some coverage of it the new york

1116
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:25,119
times did two articles people wanted to

1117
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:27,480
know about it it would have been

1118
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,200
completely uh non-credible for the

1119
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,680
entire mainstream to ignore it 100 they

1120
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,599
they had to deal with it to the extent

1121
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:37,520
possible but it was a fairly minimal

1122
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:38,640
extent

1123
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,119
what i believe is that

1124
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,440
the dominant faction was always the the

1125
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:47,440
true establishment the people who you

1126
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:49,200
know smeared elizondo over and over

1127
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:51,040
again he's not part he wasn't part of

1128
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,000
atip

1129
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,160
and on and on and on uh things that we

1130
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,800
now know were completely untrue

1131
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,640
uh so there was a fight there was always

1132
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,480
a fight within

1133
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:03,119
the establishment and that fight has not

1134
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:04,079
ended

1135
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:06,079
and so what i now think is that because

1136
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:08,000
we are in the middle of and i'm going to

1137
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,000
say it again until i'm blue in the face

1138
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:11,680
we are in the middle of a global

1139
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,640
revolution this is an international

1140
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,200
revolution it is unlike anything human

1141
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,440
history has ever seen

1142
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,440
nations have had revolutions they've had

1143
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,880
revolutions from the people they've had

1144
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,880
revolutions from the state they've had

1145
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,400
democratic revolutions they've had

1146
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,240
fascistic revolutions and communist

1147
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:31,040
revolutions but they've never seen a

1148
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,200
global revolution like what we have seen

1149
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,880
in the last two and a half years and

1150
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,240
it's still going

1151
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:38,160
and so that revolution

1152
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,520
in my opinion

1153
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,880
cannot from the point of view of the

1154
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,240
people running it

1155
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:44,319
it cannot be turned back at this point

1156
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:47,040
they are not going to allow it and one

1157
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:48,880
of the threats there are several threats

1158
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,920
but one of them is ufo openness ufo

1159
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,760
openness cannot be permitted it's too

1160
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:54,960
dangerous

1161
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,640
it opens up too many questions and they

1162
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,200
nearly went over the red line two years

1163
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,599
ago when leslie and ralph got one

1164
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:05,200
article in the new york times their last

1165
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,240
one

1166
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,720
and it wasn't even you know i mean it

1167
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,640
was almost a disappointing article on

1168
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,000
some level

1169
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,920
remember

1170
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:16,000
the one with the quote with eric davis

1171
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,839
yes that's the one

1172
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:19,119
that's what made it that's what made it

1173
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,280
great that's what made it great and and

1174
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,520
yeah it was buried that was buried at

1175
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,000
the bottom of the article

1176
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,440
if you didn't get to the end of the

1177
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,040
article you didn't get the good stuff

1178
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,040
you didn't get dessert you were right

1179
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,520
and but the point is that that article i

1180
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:35,520
almost consider it the high water mark

1181
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,079
of the of the push toward openness they

1182
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:39,920
came so close

1183
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,800
to

1184
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:42,559
an almost an official acknowledgement of

1185
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,520
crash retrievals of ufos that is the red

1186
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,839
line that's the first big red line

1187
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:49,599
there's a few others but

1188
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,040
uh

1189
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,119
and they and things have been walked

1190
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,280
back ever since then and you know a year

1191
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,200
after that we get the u8 the navy uap

1192
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,720
task force report

1193
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,640
yeah that was a whole lot of nothing

1194
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:02,640
nine pages basically six pages of

1195
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:03,680
content

1196
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,880
with no

1197
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,960
information whatsoever and you get the

1198
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:09,119
the beginning of the military really

1199
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:12,720
repositioning itself as the dominant you

1200
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,200
know the voice on all of this and the

1201
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:17,760
voice is just what john sanford said 70

1202
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,480
years ago we've got this we've got this

1203
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,480
we just with enough information we'll be

1204
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:24,079
able to identify

1205
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,440
uh all of them and then what they said

1206
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,040
two months ago we had ronald moultrie

1207
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:29,200
one of the two guys on for the pentagon

1208
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,880
saying with enough information we'll

1209
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,599
identify and mitigate that was this word

1210
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:34,960
we're going to mitigate these i'm like

1211
00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:36,960
no you're not mitigating anything but

1212
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:38,559
that's the line that they're giving the

1213
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,119
public it and so

1214
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:43,440
that this is being walked back

1215
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:46,880
it's being walked back yes there was um

1216
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,960
let's let's actually talk about that

1217
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,480
because the

1218
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:52,640
i'm talking about the ufo hearing where

1219
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:55,520
the ufo hearing uh was almost another

1220
00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:58,800
high water mark and and for a lot of

1221
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:02,400
reasons it still still kind of is

1222
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:04,960
because it did happen it it's it it

1223
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:06,960
didn't didn't happen it actually

1224
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:09,839
happened but there were some moments

1225
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:10,960
there

1226
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:13,920
um and with bray and moultrie

1227
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,559
i think that there was some frustration

1228
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,640
with some of the representatives whose

1229
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:19,920
intention

1230
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:22,319
was to have a ufo hearing not a uap

1231
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,839
hearing and

1232
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,160
and what is the military doing about our

1233
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,640
adversaries having technology

1234
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:31,040
that that was bray and moultrie's

1235
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,599
position and they were hoping that they

1236
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,599
could just go in and telephone it in

1237
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,520
phone it in and get in and get out of

1238
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:38,720
there but there were some

1239
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,160
representatives

1240
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,800
uh that wanted to talk about e.t and

1241
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,880
what may be going on

1242
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,880
and that yeah i think it was uh what

1243
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,720
mike gallagher asked about the davis

1244
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:49,920
wilson notes

1245
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,480
he did and so did representative welsh

1246
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,200
um when he brought up e.t and the size

1247
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,599
of the universe and what's going on here

1248
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,599
um you had

1249
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:01,920
you had really basic kindergarten level

1250
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:03,680
questions i mean even from members of

1251
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:06,559
congress these are low-level

1252
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,720
low-level questions i mean when you deal

1253
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:11,359
with you know all of the military income

1254
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:12,960
you know the pentagon comes out with

1255
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:14,480
that hearing and they said well we have

1256
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,960
400 encounters that we have

1257
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:19,040
i'm thinking you almost have as many as

1258
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,440
i have personally collected for the u.s

1259
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:23,200
military for the 21st century i still

1260
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:24,720
have more than them

1261
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,839
and i don't have access to their

1262
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:27,680
classified stuff

1263
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,559
so so they're half-assing it obviously i

1264
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:32,319
mean that's

1265
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:33,520
easy to see

1266
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:34,640
and

1267
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:38,559
but if you have any of that data

1268
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,880
of truly available for analysis which

1269
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:42,160
really

1270
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:43,839
i mean they had a couple of images on

1271
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,440
the screen and a couple of little

1272
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:47,359
stories here and there but really no

1273
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,839
actual data i mean in the brief period

1274
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:51,359
of time that was public

1275
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,720
i don't know what they said in the

1276
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:54,480
classified briefing but

1277
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:56,079
but there was really nothing for us to

1278
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,520
handle and there was nothing for us to

1279
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,040
to dig into

1280
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:00,960
and their attitude uh this is bray and

1281
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,200
moultrie is like well no aliens

1282
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:05,280
like that's a joke

1283
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,880
that's their attitude

1284
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,359
so yeah it's total disinfo

1285
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,040
and it's all about us the russians the

1286
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,799
chinese and i mean that's just an

1287
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:15,040
absolutely ridiculous

1288
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,480
statement

1289
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,400
because first of all this is a subject

1290
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:20,640
that has a history it goes back before

1291
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:23,680
the 21st century you know remember that

1292
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,160
guys uh yeah we used to talk about ufos

1293
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:28,160
back in the 20th century wasn't that

1294
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,359
long ago

1295
00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:31,599
and those sightings were every bit as

1296
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:33,760
dramatic as the tic tac sighting and

1297
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,599
some were more dramatic frankly than

1298
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,119
even the tic tac signing which is a good

1299
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,079
one that's 2004. do we want to say that

1300
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:42,079
the chinese are doing the tic tac in o4

1301
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,760
or even the russians

1302
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:45,359
not a chance

1303
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:50,000
why is it that um

1304
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,520
why why is it that the ufo community

1305
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:57,839
always does the best research

1306
00:56:01,349 --> 00:56:00,079
and i'm being very serious about this

1307
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,359
it's like

1308
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,599
we've talked about going full circle

1309
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:05,359
right we let the government dip their

1310
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,480
toe in this

1311
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:09,200
you know we let them go for the last

1312
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,400
four years uh we've got susan goff we've

1313
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:13,680
got

1314
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:16,160
john greenwald doing his foias we're

1315
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,440
pushing for

1316
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:19,680
these questions and verification in the

1317
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:22,400
videos and images and more data

1318
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:23,280
and

1319
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,680
us with the best

1320
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,799
well it's not going to come from the

1321
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:32,400
government i mean look the united states

1322
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,079
has

1323
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,079
probably the most incompetent diplomatic

1324
00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:39,119
corps in the world i mean truthfully

1325
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,799
we don't really have impressive people

1326
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,400
running

1327
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:44,079
many of the branches of our government

1328
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,680
they're just bureaucrats they're just

1329
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,960
career people

1330
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:48,079
honestly

1331
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,680
are they actually really intellectually

1332
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:54,079
uh capable i don't i don't think so

1333
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:55,280
when i was younger i thought oh yeah

1334
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:01,910
it's always been that way that's always

1335
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:04,240
been the complaint maybe maybe maybe

1336
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,520
they've always been kind of a little a

1337
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,839
little dumb a little on the dumb side

1338
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:10,160
definitely the case now

1339
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:12,319
and i'm not look

1340
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:13,760
i shouldn't paint with such a broad

1341
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,559
brush i'm sure there are capable smart

1342
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,920
people

1343
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:19,760
buried somewhere in the u.s bureaucracy

1344
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,839
but good grief i mean

1345
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:24,000
it just does you just don't get the idea

1346
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,359
they don't they're not showing

1347
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:27,040
themselves

1348
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,440
and with ufos look uh you have

1349
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:33,440
institutional

1350
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,880
use that word i mean the university

1351
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:38,640
world is useless when it comes to ufos i

1352
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:42,079
mean essentially always have been

1353
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,599
and uh so where else are you going to

1354
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:45,760
get ufos studied the world of science

1355
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,200
what does that even mean they're not

1356
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,440
doing it all that has to do that comes

1357
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:51,520
down to money and funding there's no

1358
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,720
funding

1359
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:54,960
so the only people who care who've ever

1360
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:57,760
cared are private citizens

1361
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,079
crazy people like me like you

1362
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,319
who are like i gotta figure this out and

1363
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:04,559
it's just like this is my obsession this

1364
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:07,119
is my obsession

1365
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,799
it's been my obsession for more than a

1366
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,440
quarter of a century and uh

1367
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:13,200
that is the only reason that i've gotten

1368
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:15,680
any progress in it is because i've come

1369
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,119
to understand

1370
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,839
this is a very important matter

1371
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:22,559
and fortunately i've had

1372
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,760
enough contacts with some

1373
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:27,040
very

1374
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:29,119
well plugged in brilliant people within

1375
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:31,920
that world who have confirmed

1376
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:32,799
the

1377
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,680
yes so this and you know we're lucky

1378
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,760
we've got some foia we've got documents

1379
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,559
we

1380
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,319
have a paper trail

1381
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,839
for a lot of this so we know that we're

1382
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:45,119
onto something and we know this is

1383
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,640
important

1384
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:48,400
and so that's why the best work is done

1385
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:51,440
outside of government it has has the

1386
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:55,839
word uh disclosure uh been overused now

1387
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:57,119
and i never thought i would say

1388
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,640
something like this but

1389
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:00,400
has it become pass a has the

1390
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:04,160
effectiveness of of that word been lost

1391
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,920
i thought it was overused 20 years ago

1392
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,160
for real like i avoided

1393
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,640
the phrase disclosure for the longest

1394
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,400
time i hated it

1395
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,160
all through the first decade of the 20th

1396
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:15,920
century i just like leave me alone and

1397
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,319
people would rope me in to conversations

1398
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,240
about disclosure back then my attitude

1399
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,040
was look uh let's just nail down the

1400
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,280
fact that there is a cover-up and prove

1401
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:27,920
that to the world let's do let's walk

1402
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:30,160
before we run

1403
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:31,520
but you know

1404
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:34,400
i get an o4 i get i get roped in but i

1405
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,079
say ropeton i get brought in by steve

1406
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,400
bassett for the first x conference all

1407
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,559
about disclosure and i'm like fine just

1408
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,079
i threw in the towel

1409
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,559
but the thing is like i believe in

1410
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:46,079
disclosure

1411
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,599
but we're never ever going to get an

1412
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,599
actual disclosure in the sense that the

1413
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:51,520
government

1414
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,960
seriously think the united states

1415
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:56,559
government is honest enough capable

1416
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:58,079
enough competent enough

1417
01:00:03,030 --> 00:59:59,680
even able

1418
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,040
to do to do an actual disclosure of the

1419
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:05,920
ufo phenomenon what i think uh the word

1420
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:09,200
that i've been uh preferring is exposure

1421
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,200
and that's exposure

1422
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,520
that's you took that for me i gave that

1423
01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,319
to you that was a gift maybe i was maybe

1424
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:18,559
i was drunk maybe you were drunk we're

1425
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:20,880
drinking and i said richard it's about

1426
01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,319
exposure

1427
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:24,559
you don't remember that uh the good kind

1428
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:28,079
the kind about ufos but that kind of

1429
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,920
let's take a break right here and we'll

1430
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,160
come back and we'll talk about

1431
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,559
exposure this is fade to black i am your

1432
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,480
host jimmy church tonight the one and

1433
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:39,040
only richard bleep and dolan

1434
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:42,160
on the game changer and nx network this

1435
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is fade to black more richard after this

1436
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:03,510
[Music]

1437
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:06,640
way out here we listen to jimmy church

1438
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,589
you're listening to jimmy church and

1439
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fade to black

1440
01:01:20,290 --> 01:01:30,340
[Applause]

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[Music]

1442
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,160
the believer is the chilling true story

1443
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of dr john mack a renowned harvard

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this is a outreach program from the

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do you want to be an official fate or

1479
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not of course you do this is jimmy

1480
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church of fade to black just go to our

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or not when you think about the future

1484
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of our country and where we're headed do

1485
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you wonder about the food supply i do

1486
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disruptions in the food supply chain

1487
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could be disastrous and they usually

1488
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occur with little warning that's why the

1489
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smartest thing you can do today is to

1490
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1519
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1520
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1521
01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:52,079
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1523
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1524
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1542
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you are listening to fate to black with

1547
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,069
hi

1548
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:02,240
i'm lisa vance you're listening to jimmy

1549
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:05,760
church this is revolution the revolution

1550
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:08,799
will not be televised the revolution is

1551
01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:10,880
on radio

1552
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:35,589
[Music]

1553
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:37,960
so

1554
01:06:45,810 --> 01:06:51,130
[Applause]

1555
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:54,309
[Music]

1556
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,160
welcome back fade to black i am your

1557
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:57,839
host jimmy church tonight richard bleep

1558
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,160
and dolan is with us tomorrow night

1559
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:02,240
linda moulton howe

1560
01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:05,200
what a great week whitley strieber right

1561
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,559
on on monday night you had me last night

1562
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:11,119
richard tonight you guys are spoiled

1563
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:13,039
guys are spoiled tonight it's uh richard

1564
01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:17,039
bleep and dolan and um so richard so i'm

1565
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:19,119
gonna refresh your memory

1566
01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:21,359
so we were at a conference about four

1567
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:23,520
years ago five years ago four years ago

1568
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:27,039
camera crew is there uh uh

1569
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:29,359
you know thing is going on and they come

1570
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:30,319
up to me

1571
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:32,400
pop a microphone in my hand and and said

1572
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:33,760
so jimmy

1573
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:34,880
what's your

1574
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:36,480
comment and you and tracy are standing

1575
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:37,520
right here

1576
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:39,760
and uh you remember our booths were next

1577
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:42,640
to each other and anyway and said so

1578
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,119
what are your comments on disclosure

1579
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,039
i said no

1580
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:49,839
it's exposure

1581
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:52,559
that's what we need to talk about

1582
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:54,640
we need to change the term and and you

1583
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,760
came up and you're like that was pretty

1584
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:56,960
good church

1585
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:57,760
so

1586
01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:59,680
well if that's the case i'm i'll give

1587
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:01,920
you the credit but i i use it because i

1588
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:04,000
think that's really appropriate that's

1589
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,680
not that's not

1590
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,920
that's not what is important here

1591
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,079
what is important is i think you smoke

1592
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:11,839
too much weed

1593
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:13,119
i think

1594
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:13,920
you

1595
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:23,269
oh this is about the story that i was

1596
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,040
going to tell you

1597
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,080
i had a i didn't have an experience

1598
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:29,920
i once had an experience with the

1599
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:32,640
marijuana

1600
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:42,870
i i have had i have had such experiences

1601
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:44,799
yes from time to time

1602
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:46,640
how frequently but yeah look i'm not

1603
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:47,839
going to deny it

1604
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:49,920
you know what's funny i

1605
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:52,799
i have richard dolan hair now

1606
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:55,120
and you've got jimmy churchill poor man

1607
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:56,640
yes both of them i don't know who's got

1608
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:59,279
it worse yeah we've completely reversed

1609
01:09:01,829 --> 01:09:00,719
role here

1610
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:01,839
completely

1611
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:03,839
um when was the last time you smoked

1612
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,040
weed

1613
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,960
uh it's been a while it's actually been

1614
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,239
a while maybe

1615
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,400
maybe not quite a year

1616
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:12,319
not quite here what

1617
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,159
yeah it's been

1618
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:16,480
not that i have smoked a lot of it but

1619
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:18,960
yes i've

1620
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:20,640
had no problem with

1621
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,319
smoking a little bit from time to time

1622
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,239
but it has been a little while

1623
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:26,319
you're blushing just a little bit but

1624
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:28,400
but that's okay i don't see this often

1625
01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:30,239
so let me i'm not doing a bill clinton

1626
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:33,279
here i'm telling you the truth like i i

1627
01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:35,279
pots sometimes yes

1628
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:36,159
and

1629
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:38,319
sometimes more than others but it's

1630
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:40,880
never a lot honestly

1631
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,279
uh first time i was i was in my

1632
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:45,440
mid-teens pretty

1633
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:46,960
pretty young

1634
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,359
and uh then i stopped like i i would

1635
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:51,600
smoke on and off it was 70. everyone

1636
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,799
smoked pot

1637
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:54,719
and then uh i think when i was in my

1638
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:57,280
early 20s i stopped all together

1639
01:10:02,950 --> 01:09:59,040
actually stopped completely when i was

1640
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,960
like 23 24 just no more and i was

1641
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:05,520
actually very serious about my studies

1642
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:06,880
about my career and all that i just

1643
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:09,360
didn't do any of that and that was for

1644
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,199
more than 20

1645
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:13,440
uh 25 years

1646
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:16,080
and then

1647
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:18,719
first time

1648
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,239
um

1649
01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:22,320
actually it's not do i i did have a

1650
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:25,040
little bit back in 2006

1651
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,679
so how old was i i was like in my early

1652
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:29,679
40s mid 40s

1653
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:30,560
uh

1654
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,159
on a tv shoot actually we and we were

1655
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:37,199
we were staying in a apartment in new

1656
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:39,280
orleans owned by martin scorsese i was

1657
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:41,360
told but he wasn't there

1658
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,040
but someone was a friend of his some

1659
01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:44,640
production assistant and he's like hey

1660
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:46,159
we could go to this house

1661
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,600
and my producer of that particular show

1662
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:51,440
offered me some a little bit but i

1663
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:52,960
didn't i didn't get high

1664
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,280
but i will tell you when i did get high

1665
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,880
so that was about five years later it

1666
01:11:02,310 --> 01:10:58,400
was like 2011

1667
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:02,320
or 2012 what was i was in the uk

1668
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:03,600
and i'm trying to remember the year that

1669
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:05,679
there were there was like big riots that

1670
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:08,480
happened that night it was um i think it

1671
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:09,280
was

1672
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,400
july or august i could look this up i

1673
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:14,800
think 2011 and um

1674
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,000
it was

1675
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:18,560
in leeds england

1676
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,880
and there were a bunch of uh x

1677
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:22,960
exopolitic or yeah i think it was

1678
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:25,360
exopolitics leads

1679
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,360
run by a really great guy

1680
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,000
anthony beckett and so i was there steve

1681
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:32,000
bassett was there

1682
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:33,040
um

1683
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:34,560
a bunch of other people were there and

1684
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,360
so at the end of the conference

1685
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,679
we're all tired you know we're walking

1686
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:41,600
back from the

1687
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:44,239
main auditorium to like this

1688
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,120
uh

1689
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:47,360
dormitory where we all were staying at

1690
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,400
the university of leeds i guess it was

1691
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:52,080
and nothing it's like you know you get

1692
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:55,520
this tiny little dormitory college room

1693
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:57,520
not not a fancy hotel this is just like

1694
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,719
a little dorm

1695
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:01,280
and i remember where we go into the

1696
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:04,480
hotel to the dorm and there's like this

1697
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:07,520
very unpleasant ground floor with these

1698
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:10,320
hard metal chairs and around the table

1699
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:13,120
and and bassett's like

1700
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:14,400
we've got to talk we've got to break

1701
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:15,679
down everything and we've got to make

1702
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,080
our next plan for disclosure

1703
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,199
and he's just like in this manic mode

1704
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:23,600
and i was so tired

1705
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,520
i did not want to think about any of

1706
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:28,000
that and i'm just sitting i'm totally

1707
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,840
tapped out i'm like i just got someone

1708
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:31,199
take me out of here

1709
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,239
and there was um a woman there

1710
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,560
and a buddy of hers a guy and a girl and

1711
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:38,320
and she's like she's english she's like

1712
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:40,719
richard he whispers it would you like to

1713
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,040
go outside and smoke some weed

1714
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:44,960
and i'm like yes please get me out of

1715
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:45,920
here

1716
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:46,880
so we

1717
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:51,440
this beautiful

1718
01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:52,880
august night

1719
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:54,400
it's gorgeous but except there were

1720
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:55,679
riots happening throughout much of

1721
01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:58,640
england except not where we were

1722
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:01,920
so this guy comes with three

1723
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,080
joints that like each was as large as

1724
01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:06,560
one of my fingers i'm like where did you

1725
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,920
get this much pot to roll and he gives

1726
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:12,080
me one of them

1727
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:13,360
i'm like

1728
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:15,280
i hadn't smoked

1729
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:16,239
in

1730
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,760
decades really i mean other than that

1731
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:19,760
one little time where i didn't get even

1732
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:20,719
high

1733
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:23,600
so he gives me this whole huge joint

1734
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:25,280
and it's a beautiful night and i'm

1735
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,360
leaning against this wooden

1736
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,600
pole like fence

1737
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,440
and uh it was just gorgeous and i

1738
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,120
remember i took

1739
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:36,000
so on practice boy i just

1740
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:38,080
they i had no rights to this they should

1741
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:39,360
have just taken it away from me after

1742
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:40,480
the first

1743
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:42,640
in hilly i take this huge

1744
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,840
hit

1745
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,199
and i'm like

1746
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:46,960
and i probably held it for like i don't

1747
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,679
know 10 seconds who knows i just i just

1748
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,239
wanted to like get out of the meeting

1749
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,719
with bassett and um

1750
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:56,719
and i took a second hit and i'm like oh

1751
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:58,960
wow i'm pretty good at this i think i'm

1752
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:01,440
pretty good at this pot stuff

1753
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:03,920
and uh

1754
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,000
and i'm getting very talkative i'm just

1755
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:10,320
talking about everything and the woman

1756
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:11,360
says

1757
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:12,719
richard

1758
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,520
i believe you're turning green

1759
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:17,600
and now it's getting dark out so i can't

1760
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:20,000
really tell i looked at my hand

1761
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,920
and it's like oh wow

1762
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:24,000
i think my hands turning green and the

1763
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,960
next thing i thought was oh wow

1764
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,120
i think my head is starting to detach

1765
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:31,199
from my body and float up like a helium

1766
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:33,520
balloon above the little place where we

1767
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:34,239
are

1768
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,760
i just felt myself getting so

1769
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,440
lightheaded and i thought that shouldn't

1770
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:38,960
be

1771
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:42,480
and i'm looking around and suddenly

1772
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:45,679
i felt like a like a log in the

1773
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:47,280
tree in the forest as someone was just

1774
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:50,080
chopping down and i was just falling

1775
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:53,920
down i'm at 90 degrees i'm at 75 degrees

1776
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:56,239
i'm at 45 degrees and i'm like i'm going

1777
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:58,080
down and all i kept thinking this is

1778
01:15:01,270 --> 01:15:00,080
such a crazy thing

1779
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:01,280
first i'm like

1780
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,000
i am not going down i have an iron will

1781
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:06,000
i will not collapse

1782
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,520
and then the next thing i'm thinking of

1783
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:09,600
was paul mccartney

1784
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:11,679
and this is the craziest thing but like

1785
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:13,840
back in was in the 70s paul mccartney

1786
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:16,880
got arrested in tokyo and by having a

1787
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:18,400
pot in japan

1788
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,320
it was a big thing at the time in his

1789
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:22,960
luggage and went to jail arrested yeah

1790
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:25,600
they got him man yeah and i'm like i'm

1791
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,560
flying out of this country tomorrow

1792
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:30,960
and if i collapse because i've had pot

1793
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:33,120
like this was the last thing i wanted

1794
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:35,679
i'm like no this must not happen

1795
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:38,560
so i'm boom i'm down on the ground

1796
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:40,159
i am down

1797
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:41,600
and um

1798
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:43,920
i open my eyes and like there's this

1799
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:46,159
small crowd of people with this

1800
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:49,600
terrified looks on their face

1801
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:51,760
and i'm like oh i'm good i'm good and i

1802
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:53,600
go to get up and the woman turned out to

1803
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:56,719
be a nurse she's like nope stay down

1804
01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:59,920
and i was had no understanding why

1805
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:01,760
she said nope you have to stay down and

1806
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:05,040
i'm and i'm making jokes i'm being

1807
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,760
myself and there's all this nervous

1808
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,040
laughter

1809
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,960
i'm like what are you nervous laughed

1810
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,400
what's your nervous laughter about i'm

1811
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,480
making some really funny jokes here

1812
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,800
they finally let me stand up i learned

1813
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:19,199
the next year i went back there she said

1814
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,880
do you have any idea how long you were

1815
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:22,239
out i'm like i thought i was after like

1816
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:24,239
two seconds she says no you were out for

1817
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:26,880
like five minutes we were ready to call

1818
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:28,960
the ambulance

1819
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:34,080
and i was like oh wow damn

1820
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:36,320
so that's that's like what a newbie what

1821
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:38,000
a novice i am

1822
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:41,600
with pot like i had okay i had

1823
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:44,960
nearly the same identical experience i

1824
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:46,800
hadn't smoked pot in

1825
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:51,040
in 10 years and and i go to see a band a

1826
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:52,880
friend of mine's band play

1827
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:53,840
and

1828
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:57,520
are

1829
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,239
um the band is done

1830
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:02,400
and we're out in the back parking lot

1831
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,719
standing there and somebody lights up a

1832
01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:05,920
joint

1833
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:07,920
and this is what happens

1834
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,760
i was like man

1835
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:12,080
i've been smoking since i was two

1836
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:13,280
past that thing

1837
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:14,560
right

1838
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:16,960
and i take a hit and it goes around and

1839
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:19,040
i did the same thing i held it in for

1840
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:21,920
like five seconds too long you know and

1841
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,719
right

1842
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:24,960
the second hit and there's like four or

1843
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:27,520
five of us standing there richard

1844
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:30,560
i uh all i remember

1845
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:33,199
is kind of like you was like

1846
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,920
okay oh sh

1847
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:38,080
oh man really

1848
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:42,239
and as i as this thought comes into my

1849
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:43,360
head

1850
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:45,679
the next thing i remember

1851
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:49,920
was i was looking at the back of my hand

1852
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:51,440
okay

1853
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,000
my hand was on the ground

1854
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:56,000
i was a tripod

1855
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,040
right

1856
01:18:01,990 --> 01:17:59,520
that's hilarious yeah yeah yeah and i'm

1857
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:02,000
looking at my hand and and i'm like what

1858
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,679
am i doing

1859
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:05,040
and and

1860
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:09,840
was like cool in this position but

1861
01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:10,960
and and

1862
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:12,800
and then i hear somebody go

1863
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:15,120
dude are you all right

1864
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:18,400
and i stand up i stand up now this is

1865
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:21,360
the thing what did they see

1866
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,159
right and i i don't remember going down

1867
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:26,480
i don't remember it so what was it like

1868
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:31,430
right i don't know i don't know what

1869
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:33,600
they saw but for the rest of the night

1870
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,600
we went back in the club and i'm sitting

1871
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:37,360
at this table and everybody came up to

1872
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:39,280
me for the next two hours are you okay

1873
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:41,120
how are you doing are you okay

1874
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:42,960
i'm fine i've had i've had a few of

1875
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:45,199
those to be honest with you i mean

1876
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:46,640
you know i won't go into details with

1877
01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:48,560
any other of those events but uh yes

1878
01:18:57,510 --> 01:18:51,440
i've had a number of such occasions as

1879
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:00,390
most men want the nickname tripod but

1880
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,360
you don't want it for that reason

1881
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:05,679
you want it for another reason

1882
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:08,880
anyway what uh why the marijuana oh okay

1883
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:10,159
so

1884
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:11,679
marijuana and you're the one who brought

1885
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:14,159
this up you're asking me about it

1886
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:16,080
exposure that's why i brought it up

1887
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:17,760
exposure

1888
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,560
yeah yeah so

1889
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,640
let's bring this back around here yeah

1890
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:24,239
let's uh let's circle back uh

1891
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:27,120
professional ufo stuff professional

1892
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:28,080
radio

1893
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:30,880
but what what is the difference though

1894
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:33,120
um you started to get into that before

1895
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:34,880
the break yes uh

1896
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:37,920
disclosure disclosure is a government

1897
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:39,120
let's just use it use the word

1898
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,560
government it's a government operation

1899
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:42,800
right the government discloses what it

1900
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:44,640
knows and in fact that's a good thing

1901
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:46,480
like we want that because

1902
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:48,719
we want a government that is responsible

1903
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:51,280
to us obviously we want a government

1904
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:57,510
we don't have that anymore and

1905
01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:58,719
we're going to really have to do some

1906
01:20:02,950 --> 01:20:01,280
serious work to get it get that back but

1907
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,960
the idea is that the government is

1908
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:04,560
responsible to the people the government

1909
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:06,480
should fear the people not the reverse

1910
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:08,800
just like anyone v for vendetta

1911
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:11,199
that's right and um so disclosure on

1912
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:13,360
that basis is a reasonable

1913
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:14,639
thing to want

1914
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:16,320
um the problem is that we're not going

1915
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:17,520
to get that

1916
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,440
so the only

1917
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:22,000
the only option truly is exposure and

1918
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:24,560
that means by the people by

1919
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:27,360
outsiders or maybe by insiders who want

1920
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:29,679
to help and to

1921
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:30,719
push

1922
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:32,239
genuine

1923
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:34,480
ufo data out to the public so that it

1924
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:36,000
becomes part of our public discourse so

1925
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:37,600
we can start talking about it

1926
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:40,560
i mean the fact is researchers like

1927
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,800
lots of researchers have the data we

1928
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:44,480
have the information we know that there

1929
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:45,199
is

1930
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,520
an incredible phenomenon going on around

1931
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:49,280
the world every single day

1932
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:51,120
every day

1933
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:52,480
and it's you know the thing that i've

1934
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:54,000
been one one of the things that i've

1935
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:55,760
been getting into over the last few

1936
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:57,600
years are these low flying three in the

1937
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:58,639
morning

1938
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,320
sightings of objects hanging out at like

1939
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:02,639
200 feet over people's houses

1940
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:05,040
there's so many like what is that

1941
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,800
doesn't anyone care

1942
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,639
that there are objects

1943
01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:10,320
being reported go to the national ufo

1944
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:12,000
reporting center that's publicly

1945
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:13,920
available is these types of reports all

1946
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,080
the time around the world by the way

1947
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:19,440
objects 200 feet 300 feet low silent

1948
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:21,280
some often triangular sometimes they're

1949
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:22,880
not triangular

1950
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:25,760
silent sometimes shining a beam of light

1951
01:21:30,709 --> 01:21:28,400
down somewhere like what the hell is

1952
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:30,719
this a military op really well if it is

1953
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,639
that's important too

1954
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:34,800
in other words this is something of

1955
01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:38,480
great significance and it's covert

1956
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:40,639
and i'd like to know what they're doing

1957
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:43,440
that's one thing we can bring up

1958
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:44,880
the fact is

1959
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:45,840
we have

1960
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:47,760
it is incumbent

1961
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:51,440
on us as a responsible public and as

1962
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:53,679
responsible researchers of this subject

1963
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:56,239
to do everything we can to get this

1964
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:57,840
important information out so that we can

1965
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:00,320
be talking about it

1966
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:02,000
and you know i mean shame on other

1967
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:03,760
alternative researchers frankly there's

1968
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,120
a lot of good people out there they're

1969
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:07,199
fighting the system they all know yes

1970
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:08,960
we're dealing with a kind of global

1971
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,600
digital dictatorship it's happening

1972
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,679
it's happening and a lot of people are

1973
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:15,360
trying to resist it but they don't

1974
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,840
they're not seeing the ufo part of it

1975
01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:19,600
they're not seeing the fact that not

1976
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,040
even ufos let's just use the word alien

1977
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:25,040
there are other beings

1978
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:28,480
they're not us they're not from here

1979
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:31,600
they are operating on this planet they

1980
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:35,280
are sometimes abducting people they are

1981
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:37,840
sometimes in some instances apparently

1982
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:39,520
creating hybrid

1983
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,760
human beings

1984
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,440
the ufo community it seems like we've

1985
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:45,120
just become afraid to talk like this

1986
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:47,679
lately and part of it i think is this

1987
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:49,840
the last five years of this public

1988
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:51,120
emphasis on

1989
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,120
you know uap it's like they've walked

1990
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:55,440
back even that part of the conversation

1991
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:57,040
among researchers no one talks about

1992
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:59,199
abductions anymore why not

1993
01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:00,320
i mean there's a few abduction

1994
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:01,840
researchers they still do their thing

1995
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,120
but no one's really talking about this

1996
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:07,760
the fact that they are by my estimate

1997
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:12,239
uh there's at least 40 000 good ufo

1998
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:14,639
sightings around the world every year

1999
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:17,360
probably double that amount frankly

2000
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:18,719
i've done my own little version of the

2001
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:20,400
drake equation to figure this out and i

2002
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,280
mean

2003
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:23,440
i'm sure i'm being conservative here

2004
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,560
this is a massive worldwide phenomenon

2005
01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:28,080
that is involving

2006
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:29,600
non-human

2007
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:33,750
we got to stop playing games and

2008
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,520
thinking oh maybe it's the chinese maybe

2009
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:36,719
it's the russian maybe it's our black

2010
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:39,040
budget yes okay fine we have black

2011
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:40,080
budget

2012
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:42,000
but are you gonna

2013
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,159
seriously tell me

2014
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:45,760
that we've been doing

2015
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:48,719
a craft with that can zigzag it

2016
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:50,800
5 000 plus miles per hour since the

2017
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:53,679
1940s or even the 1930s there's some

2018
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,440
good sightings that are reliable from

2019
01:24:00,830 --> 01:23:58,080
that period i mean just no

2020
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,550
well

2021
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,320
back to your point though i want to

2022
01:24:07,669 --> 01:24:06,159
emphasize this

2023
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:07,679
um where

2024
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:10,960
uh davenport you know and the national

2025
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,040
ufo reporting center great great work

2026
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,520
cheryl costa right you know great work

2027
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:16,480
yes but

2028
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:20,800
but those those are reports

2029
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:24,080
i if i if it was if it was me and if i

2030
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:26,000
was doing a drake equation on this you

2031
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:28,639
have to put the other variable in there

2032
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,040
um and there's no way to confirm it just

2033
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:33,120
like there's certain things in the in

2034
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:34,800
the drake equation that you have to

2035
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,880
guess at well that is for every reported

2036
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:40,080
sighting

2037
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,600
how many go unreported exactly i bet

2038
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:45,600
it's i i bet it's

2039
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:48,400
five thousand to one

2040
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,000
trying to be conservative i in my last

2041
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:55,920
estimate of forty thousand a year i i

2042
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,000
did four to one and i knew that was way

2043
01:25:01,270 --> 01:25:00,000
way way yeah that's way off then that's

2044
01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:01,280
where

2045
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,360
richard i've done it and then how many

2046
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:04,960
how many how much activity is there that

2047
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:08,239
we're not even seeing that's camouflaged

2048
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:09,840
a bed a lot

2049
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:11,679
you have to have the right equipment at

2050
01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:12,960
the right time and you have to be

2051
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,280
looking up to be able to observe that

2052
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:17,360
but it's going on as you and i speak

2053
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:18,480
right now

2054
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:19,440
and

2055
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:23,199
had some pretty interesting ones i mean

2056
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:24,639
i just have to say

2057
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:26,800
and and totally like

2058
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:28,080
if you'd blinked you would have missed

2059
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:28,960
it

2060
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:30,239
if you look the other way you would have

2061
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:33,360
missed it you know um last night last

2062
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:34,320
night

2063
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:36,800
um i'm out of my patio i take out the

2064
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:39,280
night vision um after the show sitting

2065
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,960
on the back pat is about 11 o'clock

2066
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:42,239
after dinner

2067
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,960
and i look up it's it's immediate i just

2068
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:46,800
turned them on right

2069
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:48,960
there's something right in it but it's

2070
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,199
moving really slow and richard i only

2071
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,520
saw one last night because my batteries

2072
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:55,440
went in on my night vision

2073
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:58,000
and i had to i had to stop but this is

2074
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,600
what happened

2075
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:01,440
it cruised

2076
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:04,159
very slowly bright and then kind of

2077
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:06,880
faded just a little bit not much but

2078
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:10,000
stopped and and i was sitting there

2079
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,679
looking at it in this little cluster of

2080
01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:13,679
stars now

2081
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,159
if i had caught it at that moment

2082
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:18,080
instead of when it was moving

2083
01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:20,560
i i see nothing

2084
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:22,400
right

2085
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:24,800
these people these beings they're ultra

2086
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:26,320
stealthy

2087
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,840
they do not

2088
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:31,440
want us to be

2089
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:33,120
getting into their business

2090
01:26:36,550 --> 01:26:34,320
they don't want it

2091
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,560
and they've been doing this for

2092
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,040
at least one full human lifetime

2093
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:41,840
probably probably a bit longer

2094
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:43,040
you know i've got my own theories you

2095
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:45,440
mentioned my my book the alien agendas

2096
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,239
uh

2097
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:48,080
that was the really the last book i

2098
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,560
wrote so far and it was a speculation

2099
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,040
about what what they're doing

2100
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,880
and it was alien agendas plural because

2101
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:56,560
i do think that there are multiple

2102
01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:59,520
groups with multiple agendas and uh

2103
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,880
you know they're not all i don't think

2104
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:03,040
they're all necessarily hostile out to

2105
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:05,600
to take over the planet but i think at

2106
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:08,000
least one of them is

2107
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,960
and uh i think that's one agenda i think

2108
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:13,360
one agenda is infiltration

2109
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:14,960
and it's you know this isn't you you

2110
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:17,280
don't have to just go by david jacobs

2111
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,840
and his uh hybrid hubert theory i mean

2112
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:22,080
he's very well known for that but

2113
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,360
hell i mean

2114
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:25,280
how many researchers have you talked to

2115
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:27,600
have i talked to who have spoken

2116
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,080
explicitly about totally human looking

2117
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,400
beings that are not quite

2118
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:35,120
like the rest of us

2119
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,440
there's some kind of bizarre

2120
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:39,520
element to this of human looking beings

2121
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,520
that don't belong here

2122
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:43,679
what kind of game-changing paradigm

2123
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,239
shift would that be for you it's one

2124
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:47,840
thing to have sightings you had the

2125
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:50,480
sightings uh i think with your daughter

2126
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:52,880
you and i have had sightings together

2127
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:55,120
yep but it's a whole other thing to have

2128
01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:55,920
that

2129
01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,400
close encounter of the third kind uh

2130
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:00,800
what would that do to you personally

2131
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,520
well i i have not had one i've not had a

2132
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:05,040
close encounter i've had a couple of

2133
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:07,120
decent ufo sightings

2134
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,159
um and yes uh one with you that was kind

2135
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:12,000
of neat it was really good

2136
01:28:17,270 --> 01:28:14,400
but uh like a close-up one no and i've

2137
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,280
not had an encounter with a being

2138
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:18,880
uh that i'm aware of i mean who knows

2139
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:21,280
maybe they wipe my memory but i don't i

2140
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,239
don't have anything that i can recall

2141
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,870
well what affected me is coming to terms

2142
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:32,239
with the fact that some of them look

2143
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:33,280
human

2144
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:35,920
i resisted that for the longest time i

2145
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:37,600
did not want

2146
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:40,719
to believe that it was too messy it was

2147
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:42,320
too much like thinking invasion of the

2148
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:44,159
body snatchers stuff and

2149
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:47,600
it just seemed too sci-fi to me and i

2150
01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:50,000
i had an emotional resistance to it for

2151
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:51,679
the longest time

2152
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,080
but i i you know what can you do after a

2153
01:28:58,149 --> 01:28:56,560
while you start encountering too many of

2154
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,159
these reports and a number of them came

2155
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,239
to me directly from people

2156
01:29:05,669 --> 01:29:02,320
who were obviously

2157
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:05,679
credible people in my estimation

2158
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:07,199
and

2159
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,800
you know when you read enough abduction

2160
01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:10,239
research i've read every one of bud

2161
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:11,679
hopkins books i've read every one of

2162
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:13,600
david jacobs books i read every one of

2163
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,239
john mack's books and i've read you know

2164
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:18,880
most of barbara lamb's work and yvonne

2165
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:20,719
smith and

2166
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:23,040
kathleen martin as well

2167
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:24,400
i'm very familiar with the abduction

2168
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:26,320
literature at this point in the game and

2169
01:29:30,629 --> 01:29:29,280
the fact is that there are many

2170
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:30,639
accounts of

2171
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:33,520
beings that are the human looking

2172
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:34,320
and

2173
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:35,040
you know there's different

2174
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:37,520
interpretations are hybrids wonderful

2175
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,520
starseeds or are they

2176
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:41,600
bred on a ship and

2177
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:43,440
inserted into human society to

2178
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,520
infiltrate and to take over

2179
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:47,600
and i don't have the full answer to that

2180
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,400
but

2181
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:50,080
i've talked to other researchers too i

2182
01:29:53,910 --> 01:29:52,080
won't i'm not going to mention names but

2183
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,920
if you get linda on tomorrow ask her

2184
01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:55,679
some of these stories about human

2185
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:57,679
looking beings i bet she'll she'll give

2186
01:30:01,510 --> 01:29:59,440
you a couple because i've heard them

2187
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:01,520
from her

2188
01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:03,600
these stories are out there

2189
01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:04,800
and

2190
01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:07,280
it it just makes

2191
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:10,800
i've had to conclude against

2192
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:13,840
every emotional instinct that i have

2193
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:15,199
that

2194
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,800
here in our society and this is

2195
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:21,120
important because i don't think that

2196
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:23,840
they're just sweeping the floors

2197
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:26,560
i think that they have

2198
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:29,280
i mean this is crazy to say i know but

2199
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:30,880
should we be asking do they have

2200
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,520
positions of influence in our world and

2201
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,120
if that is the case what is their

2202
01:30:39,189 --> 01:30:37,440
relationship to the global digital

2203
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,199
dictatorship revolution that is

2204
01:30:43,189 --> 01:30:41,520
happening right now

2205
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,199
it's a fair question to ask i don't

2206
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:45,360
think it's an outrageous question to ask

2207
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:47,120
and i have been asking this for a while

2208
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:49,679
now and i don't have an answer how can i

2209
01:30:53,110 --> 01:30:51,040
have one

2210
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:53,120
but it it bothers me this is one thing

2211
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:54,480
that does keep me awake at night

2212
01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:55,920
sometimes

2213
01:31:00,310 --> 01:30:57,280
let's take our break right here i guess

2214
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:00,320
tonight the one and only richard bleepin

2215
01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:02,560
dolan this is fade to black i am your

2216
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host jimmy church

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disclosure 2.0 with richard we've

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already disclosed too much tonight and

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we will do more when we come back after

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this short break this is fade to black

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:25,199
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:26,960
host jimmy church tonight richard bleep

2340
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,199
and dolan is with us

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01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:31,360
a great conversation tonight it is

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always amazing when richard is here

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and we never really have an agenda

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richard and i

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will have a theme and which we never

2346
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talk about so it's

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it's just

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to get back to abductions uh because we

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are talking

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uh about disclosure and disclosure 2.0

2351
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:56,480
and i think that that that onion

2352
01:38:02,149 --> 01:37:59,040
that metaphor is used so often right

2353
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:02,159
peeling back uh the layers here but and

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in this case

2355
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it certainly applies to the difficulty

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uh that would lay on the government's

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shoulders because

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if they did cross the rubicon right if

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they really did

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then you've got to start peeling this

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stuff back and one of those things is

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abductions and i don't know if that can

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safely be addressed

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01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:27,760
by the government i'm talking about

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litigation and concerns and some other

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things that would uh bubble to the

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surface and i don't think that the

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government is prepared for that richard

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no

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been

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arguing for a little while now that

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there must be

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a number of fallback positions that

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somebody has got i'm not going to say

2375
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that the white house has it i don't know

2376
01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:55,040
who's in charge of this maybe somewhere

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01:39:00,550 --> 01:38:58,000
in the nro or somewhere now and uh it's

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been migrated to uh maybe u.s space

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01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:03,520
command i doubt it but maybe in the cia

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but there are there are fallback

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positions to

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actual disclosure

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in other words

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you know we're at uh

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we were at level one for the longest

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time which is like there's no ufos

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01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:18,719
you know there's a few things we don't

2388
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understand or maybe we didn't observe it

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01:39:25,950 --> 01:39:23,520
properly and so forth uh

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and uh then you know maybe uh during the

2391
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1970s and 80s we got to like level two

2392
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which is like well some of those ufos

2393
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:31,920
might be real but they're probably just

2394
01:39:35,590 --> 01:39:33,520
advanced secret tech that we're doing

2395
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and you're just misinterpreting it

2396
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and then you know we finally got to

2397
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level three back in 2017 2018 2019 which

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is like well there's something out there

2399
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:44,880
we don't understand it but

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uh we don't know what it is and that's

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almost pretty much officially where

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we've

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where we are now and you have a few

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statements by elizondo on his own where

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he has talked about crash retrieval did

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it on tucker carlson famously on may

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31st 2019 that kind of blew everyone's

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01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:04,800
mind and then it just

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drifted away

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01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:09,520
but i mean basically we've been stuck

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there that there's a lot of fallback

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01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:13,760
positions the government can have like

2413
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:15,119
they can say well we've actually been

2414
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,560
having quite a few encounters with these

2415
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:18,239
things but we still don't know what they

2416
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:21,360
are or yeah we've actually seen some

2417
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:23,840
artifacts but we we we're not sure if

2418
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:25,760
they're actually from them and we we

2419
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:27,199
don't really know what these artifacts

2420
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:28,560
are

2421
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:32,159
they they can hem and haw about this

2422
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:34,000
uh for a while there's a number of

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fallbacks

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01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:38,320
um but the the real red line

2425
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,679
i mean they might even say something

2426
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:41,440
like well the arm militaries have

2427
01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:43,119
secretly been encountering encountering

2428
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:46,080
ufos for years but we don't really know

2429
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:47,600
what these things are we haven't we

2430
01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:49,360
haven't gotten one

2431
01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:52,639
when they get to the true red line

2432
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:55,280
which has to do with crash retrievals

2433
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,520
of these objects that's the red line

2434
01:41:03,590 --> 01:41:00,320
because that directly implicates them in

2435
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:03,600
a cover-up and a conspiracy frankly and

2436
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:06,000
and the thing is we're in an era now

2437
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:07,920
we're in a global revolution

2438
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:09,679
and you're not supposed to believe in

2439
01:41:13,990 --> 01:41:12,159
conspiracy theories not ever

2440
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:14,000
and i have a hard time thinking of a

2441
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:16,239
bigger conspiracy than the ufo cover-up

2442
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,239
frankly and so it's just not a very

2443
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:22,719
uh not good timing for the united states

2444
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:24,800
government or any major government

2445
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:26,960
aligned with the u.s to say yeah we've

2446
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:28,080
actually been hiding all this

2447
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:30,320
information on crash retrievals and oh

2448
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:34,080
yeah alien bodies that that's just not

2449
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:36,080
that's not going to be permitted in my

2450
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:37,119
opinion

2451
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:40,080
and then from there it just gets worse

2452
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:42,000
you know one once once there's an

2453
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,639
admission of crash retrievals and exotic

2454
01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,880
tech that opens

2455
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:48,639
a lot of doors

2456
01:41:51,910 --> 01:41:50,239
like how long have you been studying

2457
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:51,920
this what's your secret tech what what

2458
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:54,000
black budget tech have you developed do

2459
01:41:57,510 --> 01:41:55,360
you have anti-gravity have you been

2460
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:57,520
holding this back

2461
01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:58,800
why have you been holding it back are

2462
01:42:02,390 --> 01:42:00,239
there biological advances that you've

2463
01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:02,400
been made making from studying

2464
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:04,560
alien body i mean it just it never goes

2465
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:06,320
it goes on and on how have you kept this

2466
01:42:10,470 --> 01:42:08,239
secret all this time have we been living

2467
01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:10,480
a fiction how have you been manipulating

2468
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:11,840
the political institutions the

2469
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:14,560
educational the academia

2470
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:16,639
of the world like how have they been so

2471
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:21,360
lame so stupid so controlled for so long

2472
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:23,920
that that will require

2473
01:42:27,430 --> 01:42:26,000
an analysis of the

2474
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:27,440
you know how the intelligence community

2475
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:29,679
dominates so much of academia we all

2476
01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:32,080
know this but we don't talk about it

2477
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:33,520
it's like the emperor is wearing no

2478
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:35,360
clothes don't dare mention the fact that

2479
01:42:41,109 --> 01:42:38,159
our university system's a sham

2480
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:41,119
which it is or the media good grief the

2481
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:44,320
media so this would lead to a lot of

2482
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:46,159
uncomfortable questions and this this

2483
01:42:49,830 --> 01:42:48,080
really was one of the big themes

2484
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:49,840
that uh you know when we wrote after

2485
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:52,159
disclosure over over a decade ago when

2486
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,239
the world was a different place to a

2487
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:56,960
large extent before the revolution

2488
01:43:02,149 --> 01:42:59,760
uh had really been happening and

2489
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:02,159
and when there was like this idea that

2490
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:05,440
oh maybe social media can be a force for

2491
01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:07,119
genuine openness

2492
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,239
that's much tougher now but but the the

2493
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:12,800
implications continue to go like have

2494
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:15,440
they as i was saying before the break

2495
01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:19,600
are these beings embedded in our society

2496
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:22,000
do people realize how many

2497
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:24,960
interesting not proven but interesting

2498
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:27,760
leaks have occurred to this effect

2499
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:29,360
and they're not all from

2500
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:30,480
you know

2501
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:33,920
certifiable crazy people

2502
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:35,119
they're from

2503
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,560
individuals

2504
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,639
who have quietly been saying these types

2505
01:43:42,629 --> 01:43:40,080
of things

2506
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:42,639
so are they embedded in our society what

2507
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:44,480
does that mean that's the terrifying

2508
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:46,080
thought actually

2509
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,800
like what's going on how do you how do

2510
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,880
you even find out who they are and and

2511
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:52,560
on and on and on

2512
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:53,360
when

2513
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,679
you know you listed uh

2514
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:58,080
a bunch of researchers and authors and

2515
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:00,960
their books and it obviously i've i've

2516
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:02,880
read many of those too

2517
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:05,760
and i was talking uh before the show

2518
01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:08,320
started tonight uh about whitley

2519
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:11,920
strieber's new audiobook for communion

2520
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:13,280
he's reading

2521
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:14,159
right

2522
01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:16,480
so you get to have

2523
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:17,520
whitley

2524
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:21,119
read you the book it's extraordinary man

2525
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:22,320
yeah yeah

2526
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,639
he's got a great voice for that too

2527
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:26,400
and to have him read you the book you

2528
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:28,719
know like sitting by your bedside

2529
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:31,040
and read me another chapter uncle

2530
01:44:36,629 --> 01:44:33,360
whitley right and just

2531
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,639
and go at it but but here's the thing

2532
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:37,520
it

2533
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,560
do you see a day when somebody like

2534
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:42,400
susan goff

2535
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:44,800
steps up to the microphone and it's one

2536
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:46,960
thing to say uaps

2537
01:44:52,550 --> 01:44:50,080
or or talk about videos that have been

2538
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:52,560
leaked it's a whole other thing to have

2539
01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:55,520
somebody like that and as a government

2540
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,280
spokesperson

2541
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:59,280
to say abductions and the abduction

2542
01:45:01,270 --> 01:45:00,560
phenomena

2543
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:01,280
i

2544
01:45:23,109 --> 01:45:19,840
years ago

2545
01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:23,119
uh this documentary came out and no

2546
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:25,360
familiar faces it's 15 years ago it's

2547
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:26,800
the researchers

2548
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:29,119
you know that were were part of this

2549
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:33,679
thing in in in the early 2000s but um

2550
01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:36,000
uh travis walton

2551
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:38,560
is is in this video for a minute

2552
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:40,960
and to see him

2553
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:44,800
speak he's so well spoken but

2554
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,600
his situation and i was reminded of that

2555
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:49,040
today

2556
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:50,960
why isn't the government hearing from

2557
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:53,119
somebody like debbie cobble why aren't

2558
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:55,199
they hearing from

2559
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:57,040
travis walton

2560
01:46:02,070 --> 01:45:59,760
shouldn't they be one of the

2561
01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:02,080
witnesses called you know to the house

2562
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:04,159
of representatives it's one thing to

2563
01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:07,600
have bray and and and moultrie there i i

2564
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:09,840
get those first steps but there is a

2565
01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:12,320
whole other part of this that needs to

2566
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:14,719
be out and frankly talked about and the

2567
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:16,880
public needs to hear about it yes if it

2568
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,440
was the government's actual desire and

2569
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:21,520
motivation actually to do something

2570
01:46:26,149 --> 01:46:24,239
about this then yeah in a in a logical

2571
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:26,159
world in a rational world they would do

2572
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:27,280
that

2573
01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:32,239
not not at all

2574
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,520
that's

2575
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:35,360
if the government were to acknowledge

2576
01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:36,400
these

2577
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:38,159
this phenomenon that means they have to

2578
01:46:43,350 --> 01:46:40,480
do something about it so if you

2579
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:45,030
abductions

2580
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:47,040
you can't just walk away from it then

2581
01:46:49,990 --> 01:46:48,159
people are going to expect you to try to

2582
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:50,000
do something about it what if you can't

2583
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:51,600
what if there's literally nothing you

2584
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:54,159
can do you know back in the 1970s uh

2585
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:55,119
when

2586
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,960
the state of new mexico

2587
01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:58,639
took it upon itself to investigate

2588
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:02,000
cattle mutilations that were going on

2589
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:05,360
uh and they hired a retired fbi agent by

2590
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:06,880
the name of rommel kenneth rommel was

2591
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:09,040
his name it's kind of like a cattle

2592
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:11,119
mutilation version of the condon report

2593
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:13,520
so it was a kind of a whitewash of the

2594
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:15,520
mutilation phenomenon as it was going on

2595
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:16,960
at the time

2596
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:20,080
and a very disappointing study

2597
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:22,000
but when you when i thought about i

2598
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:23,840
wrote about it in one of my books and i

2599
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:26,080
just thought

2600
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:27,679
what could the state of new mexico

2601
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:29,920
actually do if they concluded oh yes uh

2602
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:31,600
something is

2603
01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:33,600
some extraordinary force is mutilating

2604
01:47:36,790 --> 01:47:35,360
all of these cattle

2605
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:36,800
in the state of new mexico they would

2606
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:39,440
have to do something about it

2607
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:41,679
there's nothing that they could do

2608
01:47:44,390 --> 01:47:42,800
it's like

2609
01:47:46,229 --> 01:47:44,400
you can you're gonna rile up public

2610
01:47:47,990 --> 01:47:46,239
panic that'll happen

2611
01:47:50,709 --> 01:47:48,000
you're gonna get a lot of angry people

2612
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:50,719
demanding answers who's responsible for

2613
01:47:56,229 --> 01:47:53,119
this what do you do then

2614
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:56,239
this is not a solvable problem and it's

2615
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:59,040
the same with the larger

2616
01:48:03,870 --> 01:48:00,480
problem of

2617
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:03,880
highly sophisticated

2618
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:07,440
calculating aliens calculating they're

2619
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:09,679
not just willy-nilly they know exactly

2620
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:11,040
what they're doing

2621
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:12,320
they are here

2622
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:15,440
and i think very likely they have just

2623
01:48:20,550 --> 01:48:17,600
put tremendous pressure

2624
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:20,560
on the human elite that they encountered

2625
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:21,920
and i think they probably scared the

2626
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:23,840
living hell out of them i think uh going

2627
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:25,840
back to the 40s and 50s the u.s

2628
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:28,800
leadership realized oh damn there is we

2629
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:30,080
can't deal with these people these

2630
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:31,199
beings

2631
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:33,520
we'll we'll um we can put them off as

2632
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:36,000
long as possible maybe but uh no we're

2633
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:37,199
outmatched

2634
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:38,719
i think that's probably what happened

2635
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,719
and how do you tell the world

2636
01:48:44,709 --> 01:48:42,960
there's no way you can tell the world

2637
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,719
that

2638
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,480
you know there's just no way

2639
01:48:50,390 --> 01:48:48,000
uh

2640
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:50,400
are there are there positive beings of

2641
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:51,360
light

2642
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:53,840
that uh you know telepathically can

2643
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:54,960
speak to

2644
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:57,760
people in california who meditate a lot

2645
01:49:01,109 --> 01:49:00,000
uh yeah okay maybe maybe that's the case

2646
01:49:01,990 --> 01:49:01,119
i mean

2647
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:02,000
i don't know why they're all in

2648
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:04,639
california and sedona arizona

2649
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,520
um

2650
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:07,920
disproportionately talking to

2651
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:09,440
elevated beings that are trying to raise

2652
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:10,880
their density

2653
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:13,199
uh i mean honestly you can tell by my

2654
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:15,199
attitude i don't believe most of that i

2655
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:16,800
think that's a lot of wishful thinking

2656
01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:19,760
and a lot of people with uh psych issues

2657
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:21,840
to be honest with you or they just want

2658
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:23,119
attention

2659
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:26,159
or whatever they're ideologically driven

2660
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:28,400
uh is it impossible that

2661
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:30,159
that they're

2662
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:31,760
you know this it's happening no it's not

2663
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:32,960
impossible

2664
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,480
there could be in fact i do think that

2665
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:36,159
there's probably some

2666
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:37,760
connection

2667
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:38,880
to uh

2668
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:42,560
highly telepathic uh beings yeah

2669
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:44,000
probably i think a lot of it's

2670
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:45,760
overstated but

2671
01:49:50,310 --> 01:49:47,440
i don't think they're all evil but i do

2672
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:50,320
i think there's an agenda from one group

2673
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:53,199
at least one there there seems to be

2674
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:57,360
um a very concerted effort

2675
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:00,080
to project to the public

2676
01:50:04,229 --> 01:50:02,400
that if if the government the military

2677
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:04,239
is going to talk about this

2678
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:06,320
they're not going to talk about the

2679
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:07,520
history

2680
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:10,639
that they're only going to they picked a

2681
01:50:13,910 --> 01:50:12,880
date right they picked a date

2682
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:13,920
and

2683
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:16,159
uh which is 2004

2684
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:18,560
and that's as far back as they are going

2685
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:20,800
to go and they're not going to go before

2686
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:21,760
that

2687
01:50:27,430 --> 01:50:25,360
and the the public at large richard

2688
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:27,440
because of this and it's been pretty

2689
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:28,639
effective

2690
01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:31,840
that it is a new phenomenon you know the

2691
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:34,080
who knows about roswell who knows about

2692
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:36,880
malmstrom who knows about you know

2693
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:39,679
randall shim is now what 40 years old

2694
01:50:42,629 --> 01:50:40,560
now

2695
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:42,639
so and that's ancient history and that

2696
01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:45,040
was a military event

2697
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:46,000
but

2698
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:47,920
the the military doesn't want to talk

2699
01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:50,000
about that they just want to talk about

2700
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:52,400
2004 and forward

2701
01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:55,280
is that also a culpability issue is that

2702
01:51:27,189 --> 01:50:56,080
a

2703
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,199
um

2704
01:51:29,990 --> 01:51:28,960
and so it's good that we've got it out

2705
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:30,000
there and

2706
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:34,159
but it sort of played into the hands of

2707
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:35,920
of the other side it played into the

2708
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:38,639
hands of the establishment um

2709
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:40,960
they've been able to spin this as oh

2710
01:51:44,310 --> 01:51:43,280
well yeah this is something new

2711
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:44,320
uh

2712
01:51:49,189 --> 01:51:46,320
and and because they're siphoning all

2713
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,199
the history out and i think that's part

2714
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:51,360
of you know calling this uap there's

2715
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:52,639
there's a couple of motivations for

2716
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:55,920
calling this uap instead of ufos i mean

2717
01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:57,040
you know

2718
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:58,480
i'm sure you've talked to

2719
01:52:02,310 --> 01:52:00,480
lou elizondo and chris mellon and some

2720
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:02,320
of the other folks and who've been

2721
01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:03,760
pushing this out there and their

2722
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:06,480
attitude at least has stated to me is

2723
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:09,040
look we don't want to burden

2724
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:11,280
ourselves with the baggage

2725
01:52:16,629 --> 01:52:14,320
of the phrase ufo it just

2726
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:16,639
it's not it's not considered a serious

2727
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:18,560
term in political circles and we're

2728
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,520
trying to re-position and pivot and i

2729
01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:23,520
mean i can understand that

2730
01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:26,639
i i can but um

2731
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:29,119
but the problem is that that by taking

2732
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:31,199
ufo out of the equation and inserting

2733
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,000
uap and then basically acting as if uap

2734
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:36,480
started in the year 2004

2735
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:39,679
it allows the conversation to go to this

2736
01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:41,040
place of

2737
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,119
secret technology only

2738
01:52:48,629 --> 01:52:45,920
russia china america basically

2739
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,639
and that's just absolutely false

2740
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,800
it's it's misleading

2741
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:52,880
and as i said earlier in this interview

2742
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:55,040
i mean even the tic tac

2743
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:56,639
there is no

2744
01:53:01,430 --> 01:52:59,360
credible way to credit that encounter to

2745
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:01,440
china or russia

2746
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:03,119
you want to encounter you want to

2747
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:05,199
attribute it to the united states

2748
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:06,960
good luck maybe

2749
01:53:10,310 --> 01:53:08,560
that's still kind of a difficult thing

2750
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:10,320
to do in my opinion but

2751
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:12,719
fine i don't think so

2752
01:53:16,870 --> 01:53:14,159
but certainly not the russians and the

2753
01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:18,470
can can i ask you about that since

2754
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:20,800
you're a cold war

2755
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:23,760
uh historian and and you understand

2756
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,199
geopolitics is as as well as anybody at

2757
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:29,280
least anybody that i know

2758
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:30,400
is that

2759
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:33,760
one of the things that china and russia

2760
01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:36,639
has done in a historical sense

2761
01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:38,639
is they like to brag

2762
01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:40,639
they like to brag not like the united

2763
01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:42,800
states of course

2764
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:44,639
you know and and and check out our new

2765
01:53:49,109 --> 01:53:46,880
hypersonic missiles check out this check

2766
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:49,119
out you know we we've got don't blow up

2767
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:50,880
on on launching so you know good for

2768
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:54,080
them yeah yeah thanks man there's work

2769
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:55,920
yeah yeah well we did have one

2770
01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:58,560
successful launch apparently uh remember

2771
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:01,440
that one time yeah yeah that one time um

2772
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:03,840
but if if the tic tac was russian or

2773
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:06,719
china i think that uh putin

2774
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:08,719
even if it wasn't

2775
01:54:11,669 --> 01:54:10,800
that he would say that it was

2776
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:11,679
and

2777
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:16,480
think no he wouldn't actually that's not

2778
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:17,760
true

2779
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:20,159
he's not he's not a bs guy

2780
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:31,750
putin would be bragging

2781
01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:33,599
he wouldn't he wouldn't brag that's not

2782
01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:34,639
his way

2783
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:36,719
that dude does not brag but he would he

2784
01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:38,320
would state it very matter-of-factly

2785
01:54:43,109 --> 01:54:39,119
sure

2786
01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:43,119
yeah no yeah yeah

2787
01:54:46,950 --> 01:54:45,280
no i mean what would scare the crap out

2788
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,960
of the world more

2789
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:47,840
and

2790
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:52,000
cement the illusion uh that whatever it

2791
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:54,800
is that somebody is trying to project

2792
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:55,920
um

2793
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:58,159
theatrics is half of the sale that's it

2794
01:55:01,910 --> 01:55:00,159
theatrics is half of the sale

2795
01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:01,920
so particularly the united states the

2796
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:03,840
u.s is actually the most theatrical of

2797
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:05,599
those three nations that you're

2798
01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:07,599
describing the us is the biggest

2799
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:10,639
blustering nation of those three by far

2800
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,159
you must we'll talk

2801
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:14,320
we have hollywood why not

2802
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:16,159
right we haven't had a bunch of clowns

2803
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:18,080
in our diplomatic corps we don't have

2804
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:20,000
qualified people

2805
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:23,440
there's clowns in every country oh no no

2806
01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:24,800
not not true

2807
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,760
not true not not for the diplomats no

2808
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:29,679
some of them actually do serious work

2809
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:32,960
just not in the united states

2810
01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:35,679
it's not the united states

2811
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,920
i swear it's the truth

2812
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:39,360
that's why that's why it's an

2813
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:41,840
embarrassment to the world

2814
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:43,520
that's why that's why i love this

2815
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:46,080
country sometimes i just you know shake

2816
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:49,119
my head and i just think well you know

2817
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:51,280
what could be worse i could be in power

2818
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:52,480
right so

2819
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:56,080
um but but back to the point here i

2820
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:57,840
think i think that

2821
01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:01,280
i think that that is a very solid way to

2822
01:56:04,149 --> 01:56:02,400
look at this

2823
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:04,159
that it's not

2824
01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:07,280
russian it's not chinese uh we've

2825
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:10,080
emphatically stated numerous times that

2826
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:11,679
it's not us

2827
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:14,239
and we've got this other bin yeah on top

2828
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:16,480
of that that that object that fravor saw

2829
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:19,280
was probably under the water

2830
01:56:23,430 --> 01:56:21,040
i mean probably i mean they they were

2831
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:23,440
tracking underwater objects from

2832
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:25,199
he he later denied it but i think that

2833
01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:26,320
they did

2834
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:30,239
occasion um one one of my side projects

2835
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:31,760
i've not actually done a bunch of videos

2836
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:33,199
on my website

2837
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:36,480
a series of usos so under unidentified

2838
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:38,159
submersible objects

2839
01:56:42,070 --> 01:56:39,760
and i've just been collecting them and

2840
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:42,080
um kind of bringing them to life on my

2841
01:56:43,990 --> 01:56:42,960
site

2842
01:56:47,589 --> 01:56:44,000
there are

2843
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:47,599
scores and scores of amazing uso

2844
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:49,440
stories objects

2845
01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:51,440
leaving bodies of water

2846
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:54,320
and zipping off yeah objects

2847
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:57,280
gently entering bodies of water and then

2848
01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:59,119
doing their thing um

2849
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:01,599
the us navy encounters them all the time

2850
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:05,360
soviet and the russian navy ditto

2851
01:57:10,070 --> 01:57:07,440
do you remember bill cooper's chapter

2852
01:57:12,070 --> 01:57:10,080
about that in pale horse that's right he

2853
01:57:13,270 --> 01:57:12,080
was in the navy in the 60s and an object

2854
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:13,280
came right out

2855
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:17,040
he was on a very very dramatic

2856
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:19,119
yeah that's right step marine

2857
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:21,360
yep yep yep yep but in fact that was his

2858
01:57:27,109 --> 01:57:25,040
first uh that was the first way that the

2859
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,119
the internet learned about him i believe

2860
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,760
uh he was back then on newsnet

2861
01:57:34,070 --> 01:57:31,599
comparing that story

2862
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:34,080
paranormal paranormal was it parental

2863
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:36,480
yeah but it was it was used net paranet

2864
01:57:41,109 --> 01:57:38,159
was part of that whatever but yeah the

2865
01:57:43,990 --> 01:57:41,119
bulletin boards and that was his first

2866
01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:44,000
uh story as i i believe

2867
01:57:47,990 --> 01:57:46,320
that's a believable story like i that's

2868
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:48,000
a great story

2869
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:54,000
can i go on the record i missed perinet

2870
01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:55,840
if it was so

2871
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:57,360
and let me tell you why there was no

2872
01:58:01,910 --> 01:57:58,719
censorship

2873
01:58:05,830 --> 01:58:01,920
everything was wide open

2874
01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:05,840
uh a very limited crowd like you would

2875
01:58:08,709 --> 01:58:06,880
have to

2876
01:58:11,189 --> 01:58:08,719
know how to get on the internet back

2877
01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:11,199
then no corporations dominating what

2878
01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:12,719
you're supposed to say

2879
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:13,679
nothing

2880
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:16,000
and man that was a great place to hang

2881
01:58:20,390 --> 01:58:18,080
out i couldn't wait

2882
01:58:22,149 --> 01:58:20,400
to get home from work do you realize

2883
01:58:23,589 --> 01:58:22,159
what's happened like so we're the same

2884
01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:23,599
age

2885
01:58:27,990 --> 01:58:26,000
and you don't even have to be almost 60

2886
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:28,000
to remember that there was a time when

2887
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:29,840
you were younger where you thought oh

2888
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:31,920
the world's becoming more free

2889
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:33,599
yeah there's more there's more of

2890
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:35,760
everything possible and then suddenly

2891
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:37,520
like within the last 10 years about 10

2892
01:58:41,189 --> 01:58:39,760
years ago it's like boom gotcha going

2893
01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:41,199
the other way now

2894
01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:42,880
less freedom

2895
01:58:46,390 --> 01:58:44,880
we've we've got control of the internet

2896
01:58:48,070 --> 01:58:46,400
we've got the corporations now

2897
01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:48,080
dominating what you're not what you're

2898
01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:49,840
allowed and not allowed to say and we're

2899
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:51,599
going to screw you if you break the

2900
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:53,440
rules and we're going to

2901
01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:56,400
force you now into this little corral of

2902
01:59:00,070 --> 01:58:58,080
what's permissible and we're going to

2903
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:00,080
protect you against misinformation and

2904
01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:03,119
disinformation and extremism that's one

2905
01:59:06,229 --> 01:59:04,880
of the new ones and you know

2906
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:06,239
hate speech

2907
01:59:09,750 --> 01:59:07,760
and if you break those rules we'll

2908
01:59:11,109 --> 01:59:09,760
cancel you we'll de-platform you we'll

2909
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:11,119
get into your bank account we'll do a

2910
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:13,360
trudeau did to the canadian truckers and

2911
01:59:17,669 --> 01:59:15,360
we'll steal your money

2912
01:59:21,350 --> 01:59:17,679
like this is where we're at all of this

2913
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:21,360
within the last few years that's fascism

2914
01:59:25,109 --> 01:59:23,520
no that's the nationalism that's the

2915
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:25,119
alien agenda

2916
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:27,679
well that could be one of the same yeah

2917
01:59:30,709 --> 01:59:29,360
let me tell you it let me tell you why

2918
01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:30,719
the other night

2919
01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:33,599
i'm in bed eyes are wide open

2920
01:59:38,550 --> 01:59:35,760
looking at the ceiling in the dark and i

2921
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:38,560
have this is i have a messed up brain

2922
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:40,960
man i'm just a messed up person

2923
01:59:45,270 --> 01:59:43,599
because i had this thought and the

2924
01:59:47,109 --> 01:59:45,280
thought was

2925
01:59:50,070 --> 01:59:47,119
disclosure happens

2926
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,080
we're sitting down and talking to e.t

2927
01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:52,639
and they tell us

2928
01:59:58,070 --> 01:59:55,280
we gave you the internet

2929
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:58,080
and you screwed that up right that was

2930
02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:01,040
like i had this weird thought about this

2931
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:03,520
conversation about cell phones

2932
02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:06,320
technology social media the internet it

2933
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:08,719
was a gift from e.t

2934
02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:09,520
and

2935
02:00:15,669 --> 02:00:14,400
instead of doing good things i know

2936
02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:15,679
we're going to break but i'll have a

2937
02:00:19,430 --> 02:00:17,280
different take on that

2938
02:00:21,910 --> 02:00:19,440
after the break if you allow but let's

2939
02:00:24,870 --> 02:00:21,920
let's let's let's take a break this is

2940
02:00:27,270 --> 02:00:24,880
fade to black i'm going to be church

2941
02:00:28,950 --> 02:00:27,280
fade to black hosted by richard dolan

2942
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:28,960
richard you want to tell everybody when

2943
02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:30,960
we're coming back

2944
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:33,199
a couple of messages and we'll be right

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02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:40,550
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2955
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3033
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3034
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3035
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3037
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3039
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3040
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3041
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3042
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3043
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3044
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3045
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3046
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02:05:20,270 --> 02:05:17,599
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3048
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3050
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3051
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[Applause]

3052
02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:38,159
you wanna know a secret

3053
02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:41,920
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

3054
02:05:45,510 --> 02:05:43,280
serious

3055
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:45,520
i couldn't stay sane without ponies to

3056
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:46,880
brush

3057
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:48,960
why fade to black

3058
02:06:01,380 --> 02:05:57,589
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3059
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:01,390
on the game changer radio network

3060
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:16,790
welcome back fade to black i am your

3061
02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:18,719
host jimmy church tonight richard my

3062
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:20,400
co-host

3063
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:22,800
richard dolan is with us

3064
02:06:28,310 --> 02:06:26,000
and uh richard i i don't want this to to

3065
02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:28,320
get away from us uh right before the

3066
02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:30,880
break uh you know again

3067
02:06:36,550 --> 02:06:34,239
yeah i i i admit it more than

3068
02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:36,560
than well i never admitted this before

3069
02:06:41,589 --> 02:06:38,960
i've got a messed up head and i'm always

3070
02:06:44,310 --> 02:06:41,599
looking at things from just another

3071
02:06:47,990 --> 02:06:44,320
another point of view that i don't hear

3072
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:48,000
from anybody else and i'm i'm always

3073
02:06:52,629 --> 02:06:50,560
anxious to like get the thoughts out now

3074
02:06:55,990 --> 02:06:52,639
where before i would just kind of hide

3075
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:56,000
it but i i just don't give a crap

3076
02:06:59,669 --> 02:06:57,520
you have an interesting head you've got

3077
02:07:01,270 --> 02:06:59,679
interesting ideas that's why i always

3078
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:01,280
enjoyed talking to you

3079
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:04,000
well that was interesting you know just

3080
02:07:09,270 --> 02:07:06,400
i i think and it goes back i'm going to

3081
02:07:10,629 --> 02:07:09,280
give credit to giorgio uh on the suclose

3082
02:07:13,109 --> 02:07:10,639
when he said

3083
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:13,119
it was uh many years ago on this show

3084
02:07:17,430 --> 02:07:15,599
but but he said this one thing to me

3085
02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:17,440
richard and i've never been able to let

3086
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:21,040
it go it was simple he goes church

3087
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:24,320
when e.t gets here and starts answering

3088
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:26,480
questions we're going to find out all of

3089
02:07:31,350 --> 02:07:28,639
this were wrong

3090
02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:31,360
and it was it is so profound it's such a

3091
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:34,079
basic statement right it's basic

3092
02:07:38,229 --> 02:07:36,719
and it's profound and i don't think

3093
02:07:39,910 --> 02:07:38,239
we're all going to be wrong i don't

3094
02:07:42,620 --> 02:07:39,920
think i'm going to be wrong i wish i

3095
02:07:45,430 --> 02:07:43,750
[Music]

3096
02:07:47,350 --> 02:07:45,440
all right so what's your take on the

3097
02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:47,360
internet

3098
02:07:54,629 --> 02:07:52,790
well i don't know i mean i don't i mean

3099
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:54,639
there's a pretty good argument to say

3100
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:57,199
that it was planned all along to enslave

3101
02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:58,800
us

3102
02:08:02,950 --> 02:08:00,480
you think it's not the worst not yeah

3103
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:02,960
yeah not the worst argument you think so

3104
02:08:07,189 --> 02:08:04,719
well

3105
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:07,199
you know the military and you know the

3106
02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:10,960
first uh internet lines that were laid

3107
02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:13,440
went from colorado springs to stanford

3108
02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:15,040
university and

3109
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:17,199
it you know the uh yes defense and it's

3110
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:20,079
all you know defense thinking so sure

3111
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:22,719
what i guess i would say what i think is

3112
02:08:25,589 --> 02:08:23,599
that

3113
02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:25,599
i mean obviously it started as a

3114
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:27,520
communication tool for the military

3115
02:08:31,109 --> 02:08:28,960
highly effective

3116
02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:31,119
uh digital communications extremely

3117
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:32,239
effective

3118
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:33,760
and

3119
02:08:37,910 --> 02:08:36,000
you might say it would be only a matter

3120
02:08:40,629 --> 02:08:37,920
of time before

3121
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:40,639
uh such technology could be

3122
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:43,440
translated to the civilian sector of

3123
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:44,560
course

3124
02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:46,800
you know al gore is the guy who

3125
02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:48,960
supposedly put it out there all of these

3126
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:50,960
people have bought and sold so

3127
02:08:55,669 --> 02:08:53,360
uh i really wonder but but let's just

3128
02:08:57,430 --> 02:08:55,679
say it got out and

3129
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:57,440
definitely the internet during the late

3130
02:09:01,270 --> 02:09:00,320
80s and the 90s was turned out to be a

3131
02:09:03,669 --> 02:09:01,280
threat

3132
02:09:06,310 --> 02:09:03,679
to the established order i think it did

3133
02:09:08,069 --> 02:09:06,320
i mean it was so much freedom it was so

3134
02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:08,079
revolutionary

3135
02:09:12,069 --> 02:09:09,920
you know people who are too young they

3136
02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:12,079
don't understand like the internet of

3137
02:09:16,310 --> 02:09:14,000
the late 80s and the 90s was

3138
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:16,320
unbelievable

3139
02:09:19,750 --> 02:09:18,719
in the psychological impact it had on on

3140
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:19,760
people

3141
02:09:22,790 --> 02:09:20,719
uh

3142
02:09:24,470 --> 02:09:22,800
you know society had been so utterly

3143
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:24,480
controlled before then

3144
02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:26,719
corporations dominated

3145
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:29,199
television was so terrible by the 1980s

3146
02:09:33,430 --> 02:09:31,440
was awful and everything was just

3147
02:09:35,109 --> 02:09:33,440
utterly

3148
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:35,119
controlled by just a few huge

3149
02:09:39,109 --> 02:09:36,960
corporations in terms of media and the

3150
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:39,119
internet broke that

3151
02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:42,719
it allowed it allowed individuals to

3152
02:09:47,189 --> 02:09:45,199
share information without third party

3153
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:47,199
without monitoring without

3154
02:09:51,270 --> 02:09:49,280
monitors without i mean even like with

3155
02:09:53,189 --> 02:09:51,280
ufos ufos one of the big things that

3156
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:53,199
exploded on the internet you know before

3157
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:56,000
the 1980s if you wanted to do ufo

3158
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:57,599
research what were your options you know

3159
02:10:01,470 --> 02:09:59,119
you want to write a paper for the mufon

3160
02:10:05,030 --> 02:10:01,480
journal with a circulation of like

3161
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:05,040
1500 and a editorial review board the

3162
02:10:09,350 --> 02:10:06,880
hell with that now you can just type it

3163
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,360
up and put it on the web on the internet

3164
02:10:14,790 --> 02:10:11,679
it was incredible it was an explosion

3165
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:14,800
but what we saw in the 21st century

3166
02:10:17,669 --> 02:10:16,079
especially once we started getting a

3167
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:17,679
nice looking web a graphic user

3168
02:10:20,470 --> 02:10:19,199
interface

3169
02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:20,480
the corporations and and the

3170
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:22,800
intelligence community came back google

3171
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:26,239
we know was a cia project

3172
02:10:29,270 --> 02:10:28,480
right and um

3173
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:29,280
the

3174
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:30,880
interaction of facebook and twitter with

3175
02:10:34,790 --> 02:10:32,960
the intelligence community is well

3176
02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:34,800
documented at this point

3177
02:10:37,589 --> 02:10:36,480
they're basically intelligence community

3178
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:37,599
ops

3179
02:10:43,189 --> 02:10:38,320
so

3180
02:10:45,669 --> 02:10:43,199
essentially is corporate and

3181
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:45,679
intelligence community domination over

3182
02:10:48,470 --> 02:10:47,280
the internet it's being turned back into

3183
02:10:49,990 --> 02:10:48,480
tv

3184
02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:50,000
that's the internet it's being turned

3185
02:10:53,510 --> 02:10:51,599
back into tv

3186
02:10:56,709 --> 02:10:53,520
so has that been the plan all along well

3187
02:10:58,709 --> 02:10:56,719
it's been the plan for at least

3188
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:58,719
ever since it ever since the genie

3189
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:01,040
escaped from the bottle in the 90s the

3190
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:02,800
question was how do we get control over

3191
02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:04,880
this thing and they've done it done a

3192
02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:06,639
pretty darn good job

3193
02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:08,719
so if it was the plan all along i don't

3194
02:11:11,510 --> 02:11:10,480
know but it's it's been the plan for a

3195
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:11,520
long time

3196
02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:13,119
i think that the

3197
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:16,400
uh the original spirit of things that

3198
02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:19,440
were happening um out of san francisco

3199
02:11:23,109 --> 02:11:21,280
and silicon valley

3200
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:23,119
you know you're talking about i'm going

3201
02:11:28,589 --> 02:11:25,920
to use the words punk rock

3202
02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:28,599
in that you had

3203
02:11:32,629 --> 02:11:31,840
anti-establishment geeks and nerds

3204
02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:32,639
that

3205
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:35,520
wanted this freedom of thought and

3206
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:37,679
that's the way that they coded

3207
02:11:41,750 --> 02:11:39,360
you know so you could reach out to

3208
02:11:43,589 --> 02:11:41,760
somebody in around the world and and

3209
02:11:45,510 --> 02:11:43,599
become friends with somebody that you

3210
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:45,520
would never pa and and converse and

3211
02:11:50,069 --> 02:11:47,360
share ideas and share information and

3212
02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:50,079
things that was the original spirit and

3213
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:51,360
intent

3214
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,599
that's before money and uh the

3215
02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:55,360
intelligence community got involved

3216
02:12:01,030 --> 02:11:57,920
that's right that's right and and so

3217
02:12:02,470 --> 02:12:01,040
uh as soon as the monetization of the

3218
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:02,480
internet came out and that was a big

3219
02:12:06,310 --> 02:12:04,560
word how do we monetize how do we

3220
02:12:08,709 --> 02:12:06,320
monetize how do we do this how do we get

3221
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:08,719
advertisers involved um it was a

3222
02:12:12,149 --> 02:12:10,480
difficult process in the beginning

3223
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:12,159
because nobody wanted to advertise on

3224
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:14,239
the internet and they didn't they didn't

3225
02:12:18,310 --> 02:12:17,119
see the future but the you're absolutely

3226
02:12:21,270 --> 02:12:18,320
right about that

3227
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:21,280
it was it was much smaller i mean there

3228
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:22,639
was a point where there were just

3229
02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:25,360
thousands of web pages right thousand

3230
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,800
that was it

3231
02:12:31,669 --> 02:12:28,800
and you couldn't find them

3232
02:12:35,189 --> 02:12:31,679
and and but it was a it was a it was a

3233
02:12:37,510 --> 02:12:35,199
friendship and communication tool uh

3234
02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:37,520
and and that was the original spirit of

3235
02:12:40,069 --> 02:12:38,239
it

3236
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:40,079
those people

3237
02:12:45,589 --> 02:12:42,400
you know those punk rock those nerds

3238
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:45,599
those geeks those rebels doc martin code

3239
02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:47,280
writers right

3240
02:12:52,470 --> 02:12:50,480
they now own islands in fiji

3241
02:12:55,270 --> 02:12:52,480
they're not part of if you you know what

3242
02:12:56,950 --> 02:12:55,280
i mean they're not they're not connected

3243
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:56,960
to the

3244
02:13:00,629 --> 02:12:59,040
the broke world that they were involved

3245
02:13:01,750 --> 02:13:00,639
in back then when they were being

3246
02:13:02,629 --> 02:13:01,760
creative

3247
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:02,639
they

3248
02:13:09,669 --> 02:13:07,599
society anymore and you're right

3249
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:09,679
corporations and government and the cia

3250
02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:11,920
and the agencies have truly taken it

3251
02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:14,400
over and that that's a fact let me uh

3252
02:13:17,990 --> 02:13:16,079
throw something else out for you and

3253
02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:18,000
listeners here so uh this is brought to

3254
02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:19,679
my attention by one of the members of my

3255
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:21,040
website

3256
02:13:24,149 --> 02:13:22,800
over original members i've got great

3257
02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:24,159
people there just like you've got them

3258
02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:25,520
at um

3259
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:28,320
the great fader knots but i got some we

3260
02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:30,560
have a lot of overlap too i'm sure

3261
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:32,400
but one of one of the members of my site

3262
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:34,239
brought to my attention a uh a

3263
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:38,480
transhumanist book from the 1960s 1960s

3264
02:13:42,950 --> 02:13:41,440
a guy named gerald feinberg

3265
02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:42,960
so feinberg was an interesting guy he

3266
02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:44,639
wrote a book called the prometheus

3267
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:46,239
project

3268
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:47,520
and this is

3269
02:13:54,069 --> 02:13:50,560
this is the work of of like a crazed

3270
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:54,079
genius but emphasis on crazed

3271
02:13:57,109 --> 02:13:55,920
craze like this is he this man was

3272
02:13:58,870 --> 02:13:57,119
insane

3273
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:58,880
but he was also friends with edgar

3274
02:14:02,470 --> 02:14:00,320
mitchell did a forward to one of

3275
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:02,480
mitchell's books on psi phenomenon

3276
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:04,000
feinberg was one of the world's leading

3277
02:14:08,069 --> 02:14:06,000
experts on the tachyon which is faster

3278
02:14:10,229 --> 02:14:08,079
than light communication if there's an

3279
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:10,239
et expert he might be one of them he was

3280
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:12,880
involved with darpa in the early 60s

3281
02:14:16,390 --> 02:14:14,960
this guy was on top of everything he

3282
02:14:17,990 --> 02:14:16,400
writes this book

3283
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:18,000
in the late 60s

3284
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:19,760
where he's talking about

3285
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:22,800
future transhumanist humanity

3286
02:14:26,870 --> 02:14:25,040
as like the most wonderful thing

3287
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:26,880
this guy would make ray kurzweil look

3288
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:29,280
like a you know luddite this guy was

3289
02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:31,199
like so far ahead

3290
02:14:35,109 --> 02:14:32,800
his vision

3291
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:35,119
in 1969

3292
02:14:39,510 --> 02:14:38,239
was for all of humanity to be wired into

3293
02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:39,520
one

3294
02:14:44,709 --> 02:14:41,679
digital consciousness

3295
02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:44,719
a literal hive mind how wonderful that

3296
02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:45,840
would be

3297
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:47,840
he wrote

3298
02:14:55,910 --> 02:14:48,719
how

3299
02:14:57,990 --> 02:14:55,920
guy was he truly engaged in the et

3300
02:14:59,750 --> 02:14:58,000
phenomenon he might have been he was

3301
02:15:01,189 --> 02:14:59,760
friends with mitchell

3302
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:01,199
he was into

3303
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:04,320
psy phenomena back in the that you know

3304
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:06,159
he was deeply involved i think he was at

3305
02:15:10,069 --> 02:15:08,560
columbia university no he was very

3306
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:10,079
connected to this

3307
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:11,520
and um

3308
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:13,360
yeah this guy was connected to the black

3309
02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:15,520
world i'm sure

3310
02:15:19,589 --> 02:15:17,599
and so

3311
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:19,599
he's and you know you've got to know

3312
02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:21,119
he's one of the guys involved in the

3313
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:22,880
early interviews with darpa or he was

3314
02:15:26,069 --> 02:15:24,400
connected to darpa somehow i can't

3315
02:15:27,350 --> 02:15:26,079
remember the details

3316
02:15:30,790 --> 02:15:27,360
so um

3317
02:15:32,709 --> 02:15:30,800
so i think this plan to to enslave and

3318
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:32,719
i'm using that word enslave humanity

3319
02:15:36,470 --> 02:15:34,480
through digitalization

3320
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:36,480
through interconnectivity

3321
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:37,520
and

3322
02:15:42,629 --> 02:15:40,480
the removal of all of the things that we

3323
02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:42,639
call freedom

3324
02:15:45,669 --> 02:15:43,679
because how do you have freedom if

3325
02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:45,679
you're part of a hive mind

3326
02:15:49,589 --> 02:15:48,000
and now let's talk about the ets

3327
02:15:51,589 --> 02:15:49,599
well what are they like

3328
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:51,599
you talk to abductees they'll often tell

3329
02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:54,320
you about hive mind these beings these

3330
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:58,239
et's they're intensely telepathic

3331
02:16:02,709 --> 02:16:00,639
how do you have privacy

3332
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:02,719
when everyone is telepathic and can read

3333
02:16:06,790 --> 02:16:05,199
your mind i don't think they do that i

3334
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:06,800
don't think they do privacy i don't

3335
02:16:10,709 --> 02:16:08,880
think that's practical for them

3336
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:10,719
are they like the borg yeah maybe a

3337
02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:12,239
little bit like the borg you know from

3338
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:13,760
star trek maybe they are a little bit

3339
02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:16,960
like that um when you look at abductee

3340
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:19,760
and and experience your uh descriptions

3341
02:16:23,350 --> 02:16:21,679
of these beings you don't find a sense

3342
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:23,360
of humor among them you don't see anyone

3343
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:24,960
hanging around drinking coffee bitching

3344
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:27,360
about their day uh waiting for their

3345
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:29,520
shift to end they're like they're all

3346
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:30,960
business

3347
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:35,599
and they are telepathic

3348
02:16:37,910 --> 02:16:36,880
and they're probably genetically

3349
02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:37,920
engineered because they don't seem to

3350
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:39,280
have sex organs

3351
02:16:42,070 --> 02:16:40,719
because that's a hell of a distraction

3352
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:42,080
so you know you just

3353
02:16:45,910 --> 02:16:43,920
get rid of those

3354
02:16:47,750 --> 02:16:45,920
no i think that they're they're kind of

3355
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:47,760
cybernetic

3356
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:50,319
hive mind organisms and i think that is

3357
02:16:54,709 --> 02:16:52,000
the goal

3358
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:54,719
i call that the fourth stage of humanity

3359
02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:56,240
it's a messed up stage but i think

3360
02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:58,639
that's what we seem to be headed toward

3361
02:17:01,429 --> 02:17:00,559
our first stage for a long long time we

3362
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:01,439
were just

3363
02:17:05,990 --> 02:17:03,840
you know having with big spears and we'd

3364
02:17:07,349 --> 02:17:06,000
stick spear in an animal and we'd drag

3365
02:17:09,270 --> 02:17:07,359
it off and eat it that's hunters and

3366
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:09,280
gatherers and then we developed

3367
02:17:13,750 --> 02:17:11,439
agriculture just less than 10 000 years

3368
02:17:15,910 --> 02:17:13,760
ago that gave us civilization and

3369
02:17:17,349 --> 02:17:15,920
writing and the wheel and metallurgy and

3370
02:17:19,190 --> 02:17:17,359
all those cool things in the roman

3371
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:19,200
empire and then just a few hundred years

3372
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:21,439
ago we developed science

3373
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:22,960
that's stage three that's what we were

3374
02:17:28,150 --> 02:17:25,519
born into but we're moving now

3375
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:28,160
and stage three by the way required a

3376
02:17:32,230 --> 02:17:30,160
free middle class

3377
02:17:34,309 --> 02:17:32,240
because you want to invent things

3378
02:17:36,950 --> 02:17:34,319
you need to give people some freedom to

3379
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:36,960
do that you got to allow that but we're

3380
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,719
moving past that in our in our world the

3381
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:40,399
middle class is becoming obsolete we can

3382
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:43,359
all see it economically it's going away

3383
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:45,679
and when you and and plus algorithms

3384
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:48,000
algorithms are doing the work more and

3385
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:50,240
more intellectual labor we're only at

3386
02:17:54,790 --> 02:17:52,240
the beginning of that so we're moving

3387
02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:54,800
into an era where people are by

3388
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:56,639
necessity and this is what davos is

3389
02:18:00,150 --> 02:17:57,840
about this is what the bilderberg is

3390
02:18:01,589 --> 02:18:00,160
about is this what et is about

3391
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:01,599
i think yes

3392
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:03,679
i think this is what et is about because

3393
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:05,760
i think that's what they are

3394
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:08,399
they're they're all about

3395
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:10,479
hive mind

3396
02:18:13,990 --> 02:18:12,080
and

3397
02:18:16,230 --> 02:18:14,000
getting rid of you know the useless

3398
02:18:18,150 --> 02:18:16,240
eaters as henry kissinger famously once

3399
02:18:21,509 --> 02:18:18,160
called us

3400
02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:21,519
and uh reorganized human humanity into

3401
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:22,840
you know a big giant

3402
02:18:27,030 --> 02:18:25,200
anthill and i think that is what we are

3403
02:18:29,509 --> 02:18:27,040
seeing that's why you're seeing so many

3404
02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:29,519
people rebelling around the world they

3405
02:18:33,030 --> 02:18:31,359
don't understand exactly everything is

3406
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:33,040
happening but they know something bad

3407
02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:34,719
they know that their government is

3408
02:18:38,549 --> 02:18:36,719
stripping their rights away

3409
02:18:41,750 --> 02:18:38,559
everywhere you look

3410
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:41,760
and this is part of that process so

3411
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:42,880
there's a tremendous amount of

3412
02:18:46,629 --> 02:18:44,800
resistance by

3413
02:18:48,709 --> 02:18:46,639
actual human beings

3414
02:18:50,790 --> 02:18:48,719
soon to be replaced by trans human

3415
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:50,800
beings

3416
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:52,399
whatever that will be

3417
02:18:57,270 --> 02:18:55,200
implants uh brain computer interface

3418
02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:57,280
we're 10 years away maybe 20 years away

3419
02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:58,160
from that

3420
02:19:03,509 --> 02:18:59,920
i just listened to some whack job of the

3421
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:03,519
world economic forum uh talking about oh

3422
02:19:07,830 --> 02:19:06,319
yes with 6g technology you won't be

3423
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:07,840
carrying your phone it'll be in your

3424
02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:09,760
head

3425
02:19:13,750 --> 02:19:12,000
uh well that was covered by a great

3426
02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:13,760
youtube channel truthstream media big

3427
02:19:18,469 --> 02:19:16,639
fan of them but uh yeah world economic

3428
02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:18,479
forum this is what they believe because

3429
02:19:22,709 --> 02:19:20,800
they're crazy people they're crazed

3430
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:22,719
transhumanists

3431
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:24,000
they're they're all crazed

3432
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:25,280
transhumanists these are the klaus

3433
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:26,639
schwab folks

3434
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:28,960
they believe in creating a

3435
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:30,240
technocratic

3436
02:19:34,549 --> 02:19:32,479
digital dictatorship revolution which

3437
02:19:36,549 --> 02:19:34,559
they are doing because they've got

3438
02:19:38,629 --> 02:19:36,559
influence dominance over most of the

3439
02:19:40,150 --> 02:19:38,639
national governments in the western bloc

3440
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:40,160
which is how the hell did that happen

3441
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,760
who are these guys

3442
02:19:45,349 --> 02:19:43,439
klaus schwab's just a dude he's just a

3443
02:19:48,309 --> 02:19:45,359
friend of henry kissinger who started

3444
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:48,319
this thing back in the 70s but he got

3445
02:19:53,030 --> 02:19:50,319
all the major corporations around the

3446
02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:53,040
world and financial institutions to fund

3447
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:54,560
him

3448
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:55,920
and um

3449
02:20:00,150 --> 02:19:57,680
and that's what they do

3450
02:20:03,110 --> 02:20:00,160
they hear all these policies now here's

3451
02:20:05,990 --> 02:20:03,120
the thing um when

3452
02:20:08,790 --> 02:20:06,000
when somebody hears statements like this

3453
02:20:10,950 --> 02:20:08,800
uh you know you know coming from you

3454
02:20:12,950 --> 02:20:10,960
this is where let me tell you why you're

3455
02:20:14,389 --> 02:20:12,960
not wrong

3456
02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:14,399
um but

3457
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:16,560
and i'm saying take this the right way

3458
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:18,800
richard this is why you're not wrong

3459
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:20,800
i think that

3460
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:23,280
everybody that is

3461
02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:24,080
uh

3462
02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:26,640
in in a position of

3463
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:29,680
uh of control whether it is corporations

3464
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:31,280
which basically run the world today

3465
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:32,240
anyway

3466
02:20:36,309 --> 02:20:34,479
um but corporations and governments and

3467
02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:36,319
also advertisers

3468
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:39,040
which fall under the corporate umbrella

3469
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:41,439
but um and news media

3470
02:20:47,830 --> 02:20:44,319
they found out

3471
02:20:49,830 --> 02:20:47,840
that you can actually

3472
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:49,840
steer thought

3473
02:20:55,750 --> 02:20:53,520
in a nanosecond in a global sense

3474
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:55,760
they found they they wondered about that

3475
02:21:00,870 --> 02:20:58,720
we talked about 1984 we've talked about

3476
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:00,880
this possibility

3477
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:03,760
these these ideas have been played out

3478
02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:05,760
uh many times

3479
02:21:08,870 --> 02:21:07,920
but it was always

3480
02:21:10,550 --> 02:21:08,880
talk

3481
02:21:13,190 --> 02:21:10,560
never really happened

3482
02:21:17,110 --> 02:21:13,200
and and we found out

3483
02:21:18,950 --> 02:21:17,120
and certainly we saw how globally

3484
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:18,960
things were changed

3485
02:21:24,790 --> 02:21:21,920
overnight two and a half years ago

3486
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:24,800
and and it wasn't just one thing

3487
02:21:31,830 --> 02:21:26,399
it wasn't just one thing

3488
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:31,840
was the airline industry being shut down

3489
02:21:35,190 --> 02:21:32,960
it was

3490
02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:35,200
uh every country in the world was on

3491
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:37,359
board every citizen on the planet was

3492
02:21:41,750 --> 02:21:39,760
affected uh the cruise ship industry the

3493
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:41,760
trucking industry you were forced to

3494
02:21:46,870 --> 02:21:44,560
lock yourself in your homes you were uh

3495
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:46,880
educating at home and teachers were

3496
02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:47,760
teaching

3497
02:21:53,349 --> 02:21:49,840
every aspect

3498
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:53,830
in changed

3499
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:54,960
instant

3500
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:56,880
and with total international

3501
02:22:05,510 --> 02:22:03,030
there wasn't an accident no no no and

3502
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:05,520
and that's why i say you're not wrong

3503
02:22:10,070 --> 02:22:07,600
um if you know

3504
02:22:11,349 --> 02:22:10,080
think about the the sport industry

3505
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:11,359
sports

3506
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:14,160
got on board right

3507
02:22:19,230 --> 02:22:17,840
i mean what the music industry touring

3508
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:19,240
movies

3509
02:22:24,070 --> 02:22:22,000
everything every aspect they're all

3510
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,080
they've all been utterly controlled for

3511
02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:26,880
the longest time by the just the worst i

3512
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:29,200
mean the music industry

3513
02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:31,200
sports industry terrible these they're

3514
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:33,200
all just

3515
02:22:37,510 --> 02:22:35,120
what they did is they they they took

3516
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:37,520
over you know music was once a beautiful

3517
02:22:42,230 --> 02:22:39,600
thing sports was once a beautiful thing

3518
02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:42,240
and uh by the 21st century they've just

3519
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:43,920
both of those industries were destroyed

3520
02:22:48,389 --> 02:22:46,080
by corporate and

3521
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:48,399
but uh you're right about that but what

3522
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:51,040
i'm referring to is

3523
02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:52,720
events

3524
02:22:58,710 --> 02:22:57,760
right there was no more crowds for two

3525
02:23:01,590 --> 02:22:58,720
years

3526
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:01,600
anywhere that's right anywhere

3527
02:23:09,110 --> 02:23:03,280
society ended

3528
02:23:12,950 --> 02:23:09,120
that is in play

3529
02:23:14,550 --> 02:23:12,960
for sporting events and it's not just

3530
02:23:16,469 --> 02:23:14,560
the sports teams you have the

3531
02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:16,479
infrastructure that has to do the the

3532
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:18,720
touring the sound system the lights in

3533
02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:21,359
the music industry all of that shutdown

3534
02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:22,720
restaurants

3535
02:23:28,150 --> 02:23:24,800
and the infrastructure that supports the

3536
02:23:31,670 --> 02:23:29,030
man

3537
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:31,680
it was just crazy and it was done

3538
02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:33,840
with the flip of a switch and and most

3539
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:35,520
of the businesses that went out were you

3540
02:23:40,950 --> 02:23:38,319
know mom and pops middle size small size

3541
02:23:42,309 --> 02:23:40,960
businesses the large ones got subsidies

3542
02:23:44,630 --> 02:23:42,319
um and

3543
02:23:47,349 --> 02:23:44,640
the backbone of the global economy which

3544
02:23:49,429 --> 02:23:47,359
is smaller businesses basically um about

3545
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:49,439
half of them went under i think large

3546
02:23:51,190 --> 02:23:50,399
number

3547
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:51,200
yeah

3548
02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:52,640
here right

3549
02:23:57,110 --> 02:23:54,479
here where i live uh restaurants are

3550
02:23:58,870 --> 02:23:57,120
still boarded up you know some are back

3551
02:24:00,870 --> 02:23:58,880
open but they're

3552
02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:00,880
if you look around me like wow i wonder

3553
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:03,600
if they'll ever this is self-inflicted

3554
02:24:06,630 --> 02:24:05,760
self-immolation this was

3555
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:06,640
uh

3556
02:24:09,030 --> 02:24:07,520
it was

3557
02:24:11,590 --> 02:24:09,040
the greatest

3558
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:11,600
criminal act in our lifetime by far this

3559
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:12,960
what's been happening these last two

3560
02:24:18,389 --> 02:24:15,520
years it's been it's just the worst not

3561
02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:18,399
this is it vastly exceeds 911 orders of

3562
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,080
magnitude beyond and i thought i didn't

3563
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:22,240
think anything could be worse than 911.

3564
02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:24,560
sure this is uh this is so much worse

3565
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:26,160
and um

3566
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:27,920
and you know the problem that you find

3567
02:24:31,270 --> 02:24:30,240
is that um

3568
02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:31,280
people

3569
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:32,800
it's like with 9 11. it's like with any

3570
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:35,040
kind of big false flag event where

3571
02:24:40,230 --> 02:24:37,439
people once you get buy-in

3572
02:24:41,590 --> 02:24:40,240
once you get emotional buy-in it's very

3573
02:24:43,510 --> 02:24:41,600
it's very difficult for people to change

3574
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:43,520
their minds because they've they've

3575
02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:45,680
become emotionally committed to a

3576
02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:48,160
position and then to recognize that

3577
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:49,760
they've been mistaken and that's

3578
02:24:54,550 --> 02:24:52,240
difficult to do it's very hard to do and

3579
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:54,560
that's by the way that is why

3580
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:56,800
uh the revolution that i keep talking

3581
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:57,920
about

3582
02:25:00,870 --> 02:25:00,000
uh these people are not going to back

3583
02:25:02,469 --> 02:25:00,880
down

3584
02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:02,479
you got very conventional analysts

3585
02:25:05,590 --> 02:25:04,240
talking about pushback from the people

3586
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:05,600
like oh well the midterms are going to

3587
02:25:08,550 --> 02:25:07,040
come and they're going to vote these

3588
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:08,560
people out i'm going to tell you right

3589
02:25:12,389 --> 02:25:10,880
now i doubt it there's not going to be

3590
02:25:15,830 --> 02:25:12,399
enough pushback it's not going to make a

3591
02:25:18,469 --> 02:25:15,840
difference because the revolution must

3592
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:18,479
continue imagine mao zedong three years

3593
02:25:22,389 --> 02:25:20,319
into his revolution saying

3594
02:25:24,230 --> 02:25:22,399
uh let me take a break here let's have i

3595
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:24,240
stepped on too many toes have i

3596
02:25:29,030 --> 02:25:26,560
expropriated too many landowners if too

3597
02:25:31,110 --> 02:25:29,040
many people died from famine uh

3598
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:31,120
boy i'm really sorry if i've screwed up

3599
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:32,000
like

3600
02:25:37,190 --> 02:25:32,800
no

3601
02:25:39,590 --> 02:25:37,200
because if you actually allow people

3602
02:25:43,270 --> 02:25:39,600
to speak freely about two and a half

3603
02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:43,280
years lockdowns masks vaccines yeah the

3604
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:44,720
jab

3605
02:25:48,630 --> 02:25:46,560
you know whatever one's a position on

3606
02:25:51,429 --> 02:25:48,640
that the fact is there are millions and

3607
02:25:52,469 --> 02:25:51,439
millions and millions of people who are

3608
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:52,479
highly

3609
02:25:55,990 --> 02:25:53,680
pissed

3610
02:25:58,230 --> 02:25:56,000
about the jab and

3611
02:25:59,349 --> 02:25:58,240
and there's science to support them and

3612
02:26:02,309 --> 02:25:59,359
none of that's been allowed to be

3613
02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:02,319
discussed and it won't be because if it

3614
02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:04,160
were truly if these things were to be

3615
02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:06,160
discussed or the stripping away of

3616
02:26:09,030 --> 02:26:07,680
people's rights

3617
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:09,040
think about the people in melbourne

3618
02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:11,280
australia what they had to go through

3619
02:26:15,910 --> 02:26:13,040
the criminal actions by their government

3620
02:26:18,790 --> 02:26:15,920
against them and that's just one example

3621
02:26:21,510 --> 02:26:18,800
if there is truly to be payback it would

3622
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:21,520
it would end it would reverse

3623
02:26:26,150 --> 02:26:24,160
all of the things that have happened and

3624
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:26,160
that would implicate the entire global

3625
02:26:29,030 --> 02:26:27,520
order

3626
02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:29,040
and these governments they they've got

3627
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:30,399
the police on their side they got the

3628
02:26:33,590 --> 02:26:31,920
intelligence communities on their side

3629
02:26:35,110 --> 02:26:33,600
they got the internet on their side

3630
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:35,120
they've got digital control over people

3631
02:26:39,349 --> 02:26:37,040
they got the banks on their side

3632
02:26:41,270 --> 02:26:39,359
they've got they've got all that stuff

3633
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:41,280
and all the people have are trucks and

3634
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:44,319
tractors to block roads and spray feces

3635
02:26:48,150 --> 02:26:46,319
on the wall of parliament in places like

3636
02:26:49,670 --> 02:26:48,160
uh netherlands and that's about that's

3637
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:49,680
what they've got

3638
02:26:52,630 --> 02:26:51,280
they don't have much else

3639
02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:52,640
they don't have digital control over

3640
02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:54,160
their money

3641
02:26:57,750 --> 02:26:56,399
uh they won't anyway

3642
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:57,760
so these government and then and then

3643
02:27:02,230 --> 02:26:59,520
they don't have the power to create

3644
02:27:05,030 --> 02:27:02,240
false flags and and i said this on my

3645
02:27:07,429 --> 02:27:05,040
show last night i'm going to say it here

3646
02:27:08,309 --> 02:27:07,439
look for significant false flags to

3647
02:27:09,590 --> 02:27:08,319
happen

3648
02:27:10,870 --> 02:27:09,600
this year

3649
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:10,880
soon

3650
02:27:15,190 --> 02:27:13,120
whoa big mind job on people i believe

3651
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:15,200
that we're going to come back uh

3652
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:18,720
after the break and and and discuss

3653
02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:21,520
just that and there's one other thing

3654
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:23,359
uh that i want to talk about when we

3655
02:27:27,510 --> 02:27:25,520
come back richard because

3656
02:27:29,750 --> 02:27:27,520
i thought we were done i thought this

3657
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:29,760
was over oh no you have a

3658
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:32,000
favor you asked me for the favor before

3659
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:34,000
the show and

3660
02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:36,800
and my response was absolutely my man

3661
02:27:40,150 --> 02:27:38,800
was that my reply

3662
02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:40,160
i didn't see

3663
02:27:43,990 --> 02:27:42,399
yeah i'll have to take your word for it

3664
02:27:46,870 --> 02:27:44,000
yeah you see you're just like your

3665
02:27:53,030 --> 02:27:49,990
yeah richard is that um the words of

3666
02:27:54,389 --> 02:27:53,040
ronald reagan right now i i wish he was

3667
02:27:56,870 --> 02:27:54,399
around

3668
02:27:59,349 --> 02:27:56,880
when you know it's been said so many

3669
02:28:01,910 --> 02:27:59,359
times but it's really true maybe we need

3670
02:28:03,030 --> 02:28:01,920
an alien invasion oh that an alien

3671
02:28:03,830 --> 02:28:03,040
threat yes

3672
02:28:07,030 --> 02:28:03,840
ship

3673
02:28:08,870 --> 02:28:07,040
maybe that's exactly what we need that's

3674
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:08,880
why it won't happen that won't that

3675
02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:11,439
won't happen because it because the u.s

3676
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:13,840
the neo the crazed neocons who run

3677
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:15,520
american policy

3678
02:28:18,790 --> 02:28:17,359
in conjunction with the davos people

3679
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:18,800
because that's what they do yeah they're

3680
02:28:22,389 --> 02:28:20,160
making too much money

3681
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:22,399
on the war with russia right now

3682
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:24,720
aliens aren't going to care about that

3683
02:28:30,469 --> 02:28:26,399
and if if if

3684
02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:30,479
if we had some crazy mothership show up

3685
02:28:36,150 --> 02:28:33,760
if omumua decided to do a drive-by and

3686
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:36,160
drop off a few drones again

3687
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:38,560
that's what i'm talking about and that

3688
02:28:42,309 --> 02:28:40,800
would be a radical change of e.t policy

3689
02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:42,319
because they haven't done that so far

3690
02:28:46,070 --> 02:28:44,319
they've been covert in the extreme

3691
02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:46,080
they've been clandestine and very

3692
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:47,680
calculating

3693
02:28:51,750 --> 02:28:49,120
let's talk about all of that when we

3694
02:28:53,190 --> 02:28:51,760
come back this is fade to black our

3695
02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:53,200
guest tonight the one and only richard

3696
02:28:56,870 --> 02:28:55,120
dolan over time

3697
02:28:58,710 --> 02:28:56,880
with richard i've been watching the chat

3698
02:29:01,349 --> 02:28:58,720
room we better have overtime man better

3699
02:29:02,710 --> 02:29:01,359
have overtime man i have my own alien

3700
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:02,720
agenda

3701
02:29:08,790 --> 02:29:05,280
so we'll be right back with richard

3702
02:29:12,890 --> 02:29:08,800
right after this stay with us

3703
02:29:12,900 --> 02:29:22,150
[Music]

3704
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:24,130
uh

3705
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:27,930
[Music]

3706
02:29:37,190 --> 02:29:29,210
[Applause]

3707
02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:39,349
you're listening to jimmy church and

3708
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:40,880
fade to black

3709
02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:48,230
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3710
02:29:52,420 --> 02:29:51,040
you are listening to my boy jimmy church

3711
02:29:55,349 --> 02:29:52,430
on jimmychurchradio.com

3712
02:29:57,910 --> 02:29:55,359
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3713
02:30:02,230 --> 02:29:57,920
despite popular opinion

3714
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:05,349
but listening to jimmy church will

3715
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3717
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3719
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3805
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3808
02:34:34,550 --> 02:34:32,870
welcome back fade to black i am your

3809
02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:34,560
host jimmy church tonight richard dolan

3810
02:34:38,950 --> 02:34:37,920
heading straight into overtime

3811
02:34:40,710 --> 02:34:38,960
you know

3812
02:34:43,270 --> 02:34:40,720
[Music]

3813
02:34:45,030 --> 02:34:43,280
i say this every time richard

3814
02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:45,040
this is the best show ever it's the best

3815
02:34:49,590 --> 02:34:47,280
show we've ever done

3816
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i have to tell you man i love the shows

3817
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:52,399
with you i love them they're the best

3818
02:34:56,469 --> 02:34:55,439
they're the absolute best and uh this is

3819
02:34:59,349 --> 02:34:56,479
the old

3820
02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:59,359
this is internet 1.0 that's what we do

3821
02:35:03,030 --> 02:35:00,160
here

3822
02:35:05,190 --> 02:35:03,040
we do internet 1.0 somebody just posted

3823
02:35:09,510 --> 02:35:05,200
i i don't have it in front of me so i

3824
02:35:12,550 --> 02:35:09,520
apologize uh for for uh not uh being

3825
02:35:14,469 --> 02:35:12,560
able to go back uh a hundred posts or so

3826
02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:14,479
somebody just said i hope aliens don't

3827
02:35:17,910 --> 02:35:15,840
eat brains

3828
02:35:20,870 --> 02:35:17,920
because they would starve

3829
02:35:22,950 --> 02:35:20,880
i just laughed

3830
02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:22,960
yeah yeah exactly i think there's been

3831
02:35:28,389 --> 02:35:26,080
some kind of worm uh brain-eating worm

3832
02:35:31,510 --> 02:35:28,399
that is going around the world does it

3833
02:35:33,590 --> 02:35:31,520
does seem like it doesn't it but yeah uh

3834
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:33,600
start starting in a swimming pool in

3835
02:35:38,550 --> 02:35:35,920
southern california somewhere for sure

3836
02:35:40,790 --> 02:35:38,560
so um

3837
02:35:44,230 --> 02:35:40,800
i love where i live though but but but

3838
02:35:46,630 --> 02:35:44,240
i'm in palmdale so i'm in a i'm in the

3839
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:46,640
republic of palmdale it's a whole nother

3840
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:48,880
world out here man you'd love it richard

3841
02:35:53,910 --> 02:35:51,760
you'd love it out here so um we almost

3842
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:53,920
had i almost had you and uh tracy out

3843
02:35:58,309 --> 02:35:56,880
here uh i've got to get you guys just

3844
02:35:59,990 --> 02:35:58,319
just come on out and spend a weekend

3845
02:36:02,150 --> 02:36:00,000
it's it's so much fun it can happen it

3846
02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:02,160
can happen by the way tracy and i we

3847
02:36:06,790 --> 02:36:04,240
we'd have a podcast of our own i just

3848
02:36:09,349 --> 02:36:06,800
want to plug it here mostly we do it uh

3849
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on our on our website we call it off the

3850
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cuff podcast and um

3851
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some of the most fun

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things uh conversations i have are with

3853
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her and we it's just very relaxed kind

3854
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of a long form

3855
02:36:20,870 --> 02:36:19,200
you know we'll talk for like an hour or

3856
02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:20,880
maybe an hour and a half sometimes a

3857
02:36:25,990 --> 02:36:23,439
little longer on with different topics

3858
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:26,000
she gets me into the woo more than uh i

3859
02:36:30,070 --> 02:36:28,240
will otherwise go but uh hey she's a

3860
02:36:32,309 --> 02:36:30,080
remote viewer after all

3861
02:36:34,550 --> 02:36:32,319
great conversations it's i love it and

3862
02:36:36,389 --> 02:36:34,560
we've done a couple of clips that we put

3863
02:36:39,190 --> 02:36:36,399
out on youtube but most of it's for our

3864
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:39,200
site right now it's audio only

3865
02:36:46,469 --> 02:36:41,600
is it over here

3866
02:36:50,870 --> 02:36:48,550
the links are right there for richard

3867
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:50,880
dolan members i've got to get tracy back

3868
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:52,080
on the show

3869
02:36:57,110 --> 02:36:55,200
i mean man i mean it's just just a load

3870
02:36:58,630 --> 02:36:57,120
of fun yeah when you when you had her

3871
02:37:00,469 --> 02:36:58,640
the first time i think you probably

3872
02:37:02,150 --> 02:37:00,479
scared the living hell out of her but

3873
02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:02,160
she was

3874
02:37:07,030 --> 02:37:04,720
uh she does great like she's

3875
02:37:09,750 --> 02:37:07,040
honestly she's fantastic

3876
02:37:10,870 --> 02:37:09,760
and uh when i'm doing my

3877
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:10,880
our show

3878
02:37:15,670 --> 02:37:13,760
we we do it like uh every

3879
02:37:18,070 --> 02:37:15,680
uh maybe twice a month

3880
02:37:20,710 --> 02:37:18,080
i think it's our basic thing a couple

3881
02:37:22,469 --> 02:37:20,720
once every other week um

3882
02:37:25,670 --> 02:37:22,479
she's just she's awesome

3883
02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:28,230
the less she prepares the better she is

3884
02:37:33,510 --> 02:37:30,640
that that's my question right how do you

3885
02:37:35,910 --> 02:37:33,520
guys prepare is it unscripted

3886
02:37:37,670 --> 02:37:35,920
yes you well what happens like with with

3887
02:37:40,150 --> 02:37:37,680
the two of us like we

3888
02:37:41,590 --> 02:37:40,160
talk about things all the time every day

3889
02:37:42,630 --> 02:37:41,600
so we'll have coffee in the morning and

3890
02:37:43,910 --> 02:37:42,640
like

3891
02:37:46,630 --> 02:37:43,920
she's got something to talk about or

3892
02:37:48,469 --> 02:37:46,640
i've got something to talk about or and

3893
02:37:50,710 --> 02:37:48,479
you know we just we we're lucky in that

3894
02:37:53,990 --> 02:37:50,720
way that we engage each other

3895
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:54,000
uh intellectually so well so um

3896
02:37:56,309 --> 02:37:55,040
and then so if we have a good

3897
02:37:58,550 --> 02:37:56,319
conversation we're like you know we

3898
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:58,560
could probably do a an off the cuff on

3899
02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:01,200
that and we'll come back to it

3900
02:38:05,830 --> 02:38:02,800
uh so that's that's actually our

3901
02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:05,840
situation so it's really unforced

3902
02:38:09,670 --> 02:38:07,920
and i think we both like it best that

3903
02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:09,680
way so we're not on a schedule we just

3904
02:38:13,270 --> 02:38:11,600
do it when it feels right

3905
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:13,280
but we've got it's like really good

3906
02:38:17,429 --> 02:38:15,200
conversations i have to say i feel i

3907
02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:17,439
feel lucky that i get to be married to

3908
02:38:20,150 --> 02:38:18,960
someone that i have great conversations

3909
02:38:22,469 --> 02:38:20,160
with

3910
02:38:23,750 --> 02:38:22,479
because that's not always the case but

3911
02:38:26,309 --> 02:38:23,760
in my case

3912
02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:26,319
um i've got someone i have i have great

3913
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:28,880
great uh personal conversations with and

3914
02:38:31,910 --> 02:38:30,720
we get to translate some of those to our

3915
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:31,920
podcast

3916
02:38:37,349 --> 02:38:34,640
well you know one of the things that

3917
02:38:39,429 --> 02:38:37,359
i've said this to you privately uh but

3918
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:39,439
i've said it publicly too that one of

3919
02:38:43,750 --> 02:38:42,880
the things that i enjoy about you is

3920
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:43,760
uh

3921
02:38:51,110 --> 02:38:49,910
this is my impression or what i enjoy

3922
02:38:53,429 --> 02:38:51,120
about you

3923
02:38:55,270 --> 02:38:53,439
is the black and white pragmatic

3924
02:38:58,870 --> 02:38:55,280
approach to things

3925
02:39:00,150 --> 02:38:58,880
and now you're not always that way but

3926
02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:00,160
for me

3927
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:02,319
i i i need that

3928
02:39:07,670 --> 02:39:05,760
but tracy for you would be the opposite

3929
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:07,680
of that so you've got all that

3930
02:39:11,349 --> 02:39:09,520
information that you can pull out of her

3931
02:39:14,710 --> 02:39:11,359
that you're not normally going down that

3932
02:39:16,710 --> 02:39:14,720
road and she can do that from you

3933
02:39:19,910 --> 02:39:16,720
right and it's yeah it's

3934
02:39:23,510 --> 02:39:19,920
yeah yeah i i i've got that side like

3935
02:39:26,389 --> 02:39:23,520
that that there's a woo side to me

3936
02:39:27,510 --> 02:39:26,399
and uh she i don't usually express it in

3937
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:27,520
my

3938
02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:32,000
with you but i do with her

3939
02:39:35,590 --> 02:39:33,760
i've had some pretty freaky things going

3940
02:39:36,469 --> 02:39:35,600
on in my in my life at different times

3941
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:36,479
and

3942
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:41,760
phenomena of different types i'm not

3943
02:39:45,190 --> 02:39:44,080
afraid to talk about it i think that all

3944
02:39:47,830 --> 02:39:45,200
of that

3945
02:39:50,950 --> 02:39:47,840
represents a portion of our our reality

3946
02:39:52,630 --> 02:39:50,960
that we don't really understand yet

3947
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:52,640
uh a lot of the things that skeptics

3948
02:39:57,270 --> 02:39:54,880
will dismiss about relating to psychic

3949
02:39:58,950 --> 02:39:57,280
phenomena i just think we don't it's

3950
02:39:59,910 --> 02:39:58,960
real but we don't have a way to explain

3951
02:40:02,790 --> 02:39:59,920
it yet

3952
02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:02,800
no we don't we don't and and yeah

3953
02:40:07,030 --> 02:40:05,280
science can't measure it then you're not

3954
02:40:09,349 --> 02:40:07,040
going to get that application but here's

3955
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:09,359
the thing that's such a great point

3956
02:40:14,870 --> 02:40:11,520
i am full woo

3957
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:14,880
i am full wu i and i enjoy the woo

3958
02:40:21,349 --> 02:40:17,680
but i need the science

3959
02:40:23,750 --> 02:40:21,359
i pursue the science to keep me from

3960
02:40:25,429 --> 02:40:23,760
like thinking that i've lost my mind

3961
02:40:26,870 --> 02:40:25,439
right i need the science for the

3962
02:40:29,349 --> 02:40:26,880
confirmation

3963
02:40:31,110 --> 02:40:29,359
of my woo thoughts

3964
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:31,120
and and that's that's really it so

3965
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:33,520
that's my balance i think it's great i

3966
02:40:38,469 --> 02:40:35,680
think it's that's awesome i think

3967
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:38,479
we all need a balance of some sort

3968
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:40,720
uh we need we need practicality and

3969
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:43,040
imagination let's put it that way uh who

3970
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:44,560
would want to live you don't want to

3971
02:40:49,190 --> 02:40:47,600
live all with one and all with the other

3972
02:40:50,309 --> 02:40:49,200
because no other is good

3973
02:40:53,110 --> 02:40:50,319
well and

3974
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:53,120
you know what what's really funny

3975
02:40:56,469 --> 02:40:54,319
um

3976
02:40:58,550 --> 02:40:56,479
uh i don't want to say everything but

3977
02:41:00,870 --> 02:40:58,560
i'm going to say a little bit of this

3978
02:41:04,550 --> 02:41:00,880
last week richard and i uh were talking

3979
02:41:07,510 --> 02:41:04,560
on the phone and i brought up uh a

3980
02:41:10,230 --> 02:41:07,520
couple of ideas richard let's not

3981
02:41:11,910 --> 02:41:10,240
discuss the specifics of this but i

3982
02:41:13,910 --> 02:41:11,920
brought i i said to richard i said you

3983
02:41:16,710 --> 02:41:13,920
know i'm working on this project and but

3984
02:41:19,510 --> 02:41:16,720
it's a different angle and these are my

3985
02:41:22,309 --> 02:41:19,520
thoughts and i laid it out and richard

3986
02:41:23,830 --> 02:41:22,319
you were like dude that's actually a

3987
02:41:27,910 --> 02:41:23,840
pretty good point

3988
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:27,920
but you need my woo you know thing

3989
02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:30,640
to go and pursue some of the factual

3990
02:41:34,389 --> 02:41:32,160
sides of

3991
02:41:35,190 --> 02:41:34,399
of these subjects because that centers

3992
02:41:36,950 --> 02:41:35,200
me

3993
02:41:39,190 --> 02:41:36,960
and i think it's good for the community

3994
02:41:41,510 --> 02:41:39,200
too as well they need the support

3995
02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:41,520
of the science and and the other side

3996
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:43,279
just to let them know that they're not

3997
02:41:47,510 --> 02:41:44,960
freaking crazy

3998
02:41:49,590 --> 02:41:47,520
right i think jacques valet years ago

3999
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:49,600
said you know there's nothing inherently

4000
02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:52,240
unscientific about ufos or anything he

4001
02:41:57,429 --> 02:41:54,800
said it's how you approach it

4002
02:41:59,670 --> 02:41:57,439
you can approach any subject

4003
02:42:02,150 --> 02:41:59,680
in uh

4004
02:42:04,070 --> 02:42:02,160
you know in a in a useful way i mean he

4005
02:42:05,750 --> 02:42:04,080
might say scientific i would say in an

4006
02:42:07,429 --> 02:42:05,760
interesting way

4007
02:42:09,349 --> 02:42:07,439
to me the most important thing is that

4008
02:42:11,510 --> 02:42:09,359
that would be interesting and not boring

4009
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:11,520
don't be boring right so if you've got

4010
02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:13,359
something to say

4011
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:18,870
i don't know if it was his first book i

4012
02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:21,520
have it um very early on what was that

4013
02:42:26,150 --> 02:42:23,200
book he wrote the anatomy of a

4014
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:26,160
phenomenon was this no no okay the one

4015
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:28,160
about fairies

4016
02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:30,640
yeah passport to magonia yeah passport

4017
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:34,240
to mangonia okay so i recently

4018
02:42:38,830 --> 02:42:37,840
about a year ago i re-read that again

4019
02:42:42,389 --> 02:42:38,840
and

4020
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:42,399
um it it it rings true

4021
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:45,520
truer today probably when he wrote it

4022
02:42:50,389 --> 02:42:48,240
but when he when i first read it i i

4023
02:42:51,349 --> 02:42:50,399
didn't like it i was offended by that

4024
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:51,359
book

4025
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:52,080
and

4026
02:42:54,710 --> 02:42:53,439
it was interesting

4027
02:42:57,349 --> 02:42:54,720
well yeah

4028
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:57,359
in that you can't it was like to me he

4029
02:43:02,630 --> 02:43:00,399
was writing off the ufo subject

4030
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:02,640
you know that this is true in fact he

4031
02:43:06,710 --> 02:43:04,479
got a lot of he caught a lot of crap

4032
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:06,720
from other researchers all through the

4033
02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:08,399
70s for that reason

4034
02:43:12,790 --> 02:43:10,720
yeah yeah yeah but by the way the

4035
02:43:15,030 --> 02:43:12,800
follow-up that he did with chris obeck

4036
02:43:17,670 --> 02:43:15,040
is a mandatory reading it's called

4037
02:43:19,830 --> 02:43:17,680
wonders in the sky yeah great that's a

4038
02:43:22,070 --> 02:43:19,840
fantastic book yeah great book great

4039
02:43:24,230 --> 02:43:22,080
book well like i said sorry i went back

4040
02:43:25,990 --> 02:43:24,240
and read paths a year ago

4041
02:43:29,590 --> 02:43:26,000
and i was like no you know

4042
02:43:32,150 --> 02:43:29,600
i don't know why i was so offended by it

4043
02:43:34,230 --> 02:43:32,160
it's actually pretty spot on but it's

4044
02:43:36,309 --> 02:43:34,240
because i'm looking at things with a

4045
02:43:38,070 --> 02:43:36,319
different mindset i back then i was

4046
02:43:40,070 --> 02:43:38,080
looking for confirmation and he wasn't

4047
02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:40,080
giving that to me he was telling me that

4048
02:43:44,710 --> 02:43:41,520
i was crazy

4049
02:43:46,630 --> 02:43:44,720
well this is it's a monument it's a very

4050
02:43:48,630 --> 02:43:46,640
groundbreaking book i i do think that

4051
02:43:50,389 --> 02:43:48,640
the follow-up that he did with chris is

4052
02:43:51,910 --> 02:43:50,399
a better book

4053
02:43:55,349 --> 02:43:51,920
just because i think their scholarships

4054
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:55,359
better and uh more carefully done

4055
02:43:58,790 --> 02:43:56,720
nothing against what jacques valet was

4056
02:44:00,630 --> 02:43:58,800
about in the late 60s but i just don't

4057
02:44:03,269 --> 02:44:00,640
think he had access to

4058
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:03,279
a lot of the research chris allback

4059
02:44:08,230 --> 02:44:06,479
i've met chris he's unbelievable guy is

4060
02:44:10,230 --> 02:44:08,240
absolutely top notch

4061
02:44:12,309 --> 02:44:10,240
thinker and a very outstanding

4062
02:44:14,150 --> 02:44:12,319
researcher so i think he brings a

4063
02:44:15,429 --> 02:44:14,160
certain amount of rigor

4064
02:44:17,670 --> 02:44:15,439
um to

4065
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:17,680
that study of ancient ufos and ancient

4066
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:19,760
alien sightings and things and he's not

4067
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:21,279
he's not a total skeptic but he's a lot

4068
02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:23,120
more skeptical than i am

4069
02:44:27,349 --> 02:44:25,200
uh and i've had a couple of

4070
02:44:31,510 --> 02:44:27,359
conversations with him about this but

4071
02:44:33,269 --> 02:44:31,520
he's he's definitely good and um

4072
02:44:34,790 --> 02:44:33,279
i i love what they did with wonders in

4073
02:44:36,710 --> 02:44:34,800
the sky

4074
02:44:38,630 --> 02:44:36,720
now um

4075
02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:38,640
there's a weird

4076
02:44:46,150 --> 02:44:43,600
and i'm wondering if if you're willing

4077
02:44:48,790 --> 02:44:46,160
to go there but i just brought up ronald

4078
02:44:51,349 --> 02:44:48,800
reagan you know and you know

4079
02:44:53,590 --> 02:44:51,359
bringing the world together and you

4080
02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:53,600
mentioned uh you know keep your eyes

4081
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:56,080
open we're gonna have some false flags

4082
02:45:00,230 --> 02:44:58,240
uh could the two of them be brought

4083
02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:00,240
together

4084
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:02,720
every everyone asks this question of me

4085
02:45:07,349 --> 02:45:04,640
and probably everyone else like is there

4086
02:45:10,150 --> 02:45:07,359
an alien false flag

4087
02:45:12,550 --> 02:45:10,160
that's in the works and um

4088
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:12,560
i just i just keep coming down to no i

4089
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:15,200
just keep saying i don't think so

4090
02:45:19,670 --> 02:45:16,880
uh you know people were saying this five

4091
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:19,680
years ago and uh tdsa was

4092
02:45:23,110 --> 02:45:21,520
going strong it's like this is a false

4093
02:45:25,030 --> 02:45:23,120
stephen grier called it a false flag i'm

4094
02:45:26,309 --> 02:45:25,040
like what do you even know what a false

4095
02:45:29,590 --> 02:45:26,319
flag is

4096
02:45:31,750 --> 02:45:29,600
this was not a false flag and um

4097
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:31,760
and it's now been five years

4098
02:45:35,990 --> 02:45:33,600
and you're you know no one's still being

4099
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:36,000
terrified of the alien threat like

4100
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:37,760
where's the follow-up

4101
02:45:40,389 --> 02:45:38,479
but

4102
02:45:44,070 --> 02:45:40,399
if there is to be a genuine false flag

4103
02:45:45,830 --> 02:45:44,080
of an alien invasion or an alien threat

4104
02:45:47,510 --> 02:45:45,840
uh that's that comes at a price like the

4105
02:45:48,710 --> 02:45:47,520
one good thing from the military point

4106
02:45:50,230 --> 02:45:48,720
of view is

4107
02:45:51,030 --> 02:45:50,240
you know presumably they could they

4108
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:51,040
could

4109
02:45:54,070 --> 02:45:53,040
wrangle more money out of congress for

4110
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:54,080
the budget

4111
02:45:57,030 --> 02:45:55,600
of course

4112
02:45:58,150 --> 02:45:57,040
nothing's free and they would have to

4113
02:45:59,750 --> 02:45:58,160
explain

4114
02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:59,760
what is the nature of the threat why do

4115
02:46:02,389 --> 02:46:01,040
you need the money

4116
02:46:05,349 --> 02:46:02,399
what is the dispen what is the

4117
02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:05,359
disposition of the alien forces like

4118
02:46:08,830 --> 02:46:07,040
these are not comfortable questions to

4119
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:08,840
deal with

4120
02:46:11,910 --> 02:46:10,560
and

4121
02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:11,920
you know are they are they really just

4122
02:46:16,150 --> 02:46:13,680
going to be able to scare everyone so

4123
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:16,160
much to get a blank check for for

4124
02:46:19,830 --> 02:46:18,319
not even explaining who and what these

4125
02:46:21,030 --> 02:46:19,840
aliens are and what their capabilities

4126
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:21,040
are like they're going to have to come

4127
02:46:25,830 --> 02:46:24,080
up with some kind of information and the

4128
02:46:28,950 --> 02:46:25,840
other thing is that it would indicate a

4129
02:46:29,830 --> 02:46:28,960
complicity of a conspiracy for

4130
02:46:31,830 --> 02:46:29,840
many

4131
02:46:33,190 --> 02:46:31,840
years like people would realize oh you

4132
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:33,200
actually have known about these aliens

4133
02:46:38,950 --> 02:46:36,160
for a while it so it's difficult and the

4134
02:46:40,550 --> 02:46:38,960
other thing about an alien threat

4135
02:46:41,910 --> 02:46:40,560
you mentioned reagan i think that's very

4136
02:46:43,830 --> 02:46:41,920
apropos

4137
02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:43,840
you know reagan uh ronald reagan a

4138
02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:44,960
number of times said you know i

4139
02:46:49,510 --> 02:46:46,720
occasionally wonder

4140
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:49,520
uh how earth would respond and you know

4141
02:46:53,590 --> 02:46:52,000
with an alien threat

4142
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:53,600
then of course at the u.n he said and

4143
02:46:57,510 --> 02:46:55,120
what could be more of an alien threat

4144
02:46:59,429 --> 02:46:57,520
than war and the threat of war like he

4145
02:47:01,110 --> 02:46:59,439
shifted gears but the idea of an alien

4146
02:47:02,550 --> 02:47:01,120
threat is it's an interesting one to

4147
02:47:05,349 --> 02:47:02,560
think about

4148
02:47:07,190 --> 02:47:05,359
and if there were an alien threat as i

4149
02:47:08,870 --> 02:47:07,200
think i was indicating before

4150
02:47:10,870 --> 02:47:08,880
i think it would make it more difficult

4151
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:10,880
not less for the for the

4152
02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:12,720
crazed

4153
02:47:19,670 --> 02:47:16,720
foreign policy these days

4154
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:19,680
to carry on this ruinous

4155
02:47:23,670 --> 02:47:22,160
absolutely ruinous war in ukraine

4156
02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:23,680
against russia

4157
02:47:26,150 --> 02:47:25,200
and you know make no mistake this is an

4158
02:47:28,309 --> 02:47:26,160
american

4159
02:47:29,670 --> 02:47:28,319
prox this is a proxy war that run by

4160
02:47:32,309 --> 02:47:29,680
america

4161
02:47:34,790 --> 02:47:32,319
decades

4162
02:47:35,510 --> 02:47:34,800
right for the last 10 years easy

4163
02:47:39,349 --> 02:47:35,520
so

4164
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:39,359
you would have i wonder would it be the

4165
02:47:43,269 --> 02:47:40,800
case you'd have people saying well you

4166
02:47:45,830 --> 02:47:43,279
know why are we doing this war here why

4167
02:47:48,630 --> 02:47:45,840
don't we just spend 70 billion dollars

4168
02:47:50,950 --> 02:47:48,640
just piss it away in ukraine when uh

4169
02:47:53,590 --> 02:47:50,960
maybe we should be dealing with aliens

4170
02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:53,600
there might be some of that i think um

4171
02:47:59,190 --> 02:47:56,080
if there's no

4172
02:48:01,349 --> 02:47:59,200
aliens then you can easily just create

4173
02:48:03,510 --> 02:48:01,359
all of the um you can continue on with

4174
02:48:05,349 --> 02:48:03,520
your global revolution and and try to

4175
02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:05,359
make russia and china behave which was

4176
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:06,640
never going to succeed and it's going to

4177
02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:08,240
fail

4178
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:09,439
we're really we're looking at the

4179
02:48:13,429 --> 02:48:11,120
breakup of an empire that's actually

4180
02:48:17,030 --> 02:48:13,439
where we're looking at it sure sure

4181
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:17,040
and it wouldn't necessarily have to be

4182
02:48:23,110 --> 02:48:20,160
an alien invasion it could be

4183
02:48:25,349 --> 02:48:23,120
done much softer in that

4184
02:48:27,110 --> 02:48:25,359
but what's the details how would they do

4185
02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:27,120
it what would they say

4186
02:48:31,750 --> 02:48:28,960
check it out check it out okay this is

4187
02:48:36,469 --> 02:48:31,760
my this is my perverted messed up head

4188
02:48:41,830 --> 02:48:38,389
i would announce

4189
02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:41,840
that we are tracking a craft

4190
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:43,120
that is

4191
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:45,359
on the outside of our solar system and

4192
02:48:52,150 --> 02:48:48,640
it's going to be here in three years

4193
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:52,160
that's how you do it nobody can see it

4194
02:48:58,150 --> 02:48:54,800
nobody contract nobody would it be

4195
02:49:01,190 --> 02:48:58,160
impossible would there be no private

4196
02:49:02,150 --> 02:49:01,200
scientific no private telescopes no

4197
02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:02,160
really

4198
02:49:06,710 --> 02:49:03,840
can't do it in deep space

4199
02:49:08,389 --> 02:49:06,720
if if the sun doesn't reflect off of it

4200
02:49:09,670 --> 02:49:08,399
you're not going to see it

4201
02:49:11,750 --> 02:49:09,680
there's going to be a lot of pressure

4202
02:49:13,590 --> 02:49:11,760
there would be a lot of there are

4203
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:13,600
scientists

4204
02:49:17,429 --> 02:49:15,359
we're not just skeptical they're totally

4205
02:49:19,349 --> 02:49:17,439
hostile and they would want to see the

4206
02:49:21,269 --> 02:49:19,359
evidence they would demand it

4207
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:21,279
would be very difficult

4208
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,880
don't have to give it

4209
02:49:26,870 --> 02:49:24,720
you only have to

4210
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:26,880
then how effective would it be

4211
02:49:30,389 --> 02:49:28,240
oh man

4212
02:49:33,429 --> 02:49:30,399
could you imagine the ripples

4213
02:49:35,110 --> 02:49:33,439
could you imagine that okay

4214
02:49:36,950 --> 02:49:35,120
that but then then what would happen if

4215
02:49:38,790 --> 02:49:36,960
there's no invasion after three years

4216
02:49:40,950 --> 02:49:38,800
but you would control

4217
02:49:43,190 --> 02:49:40,960
you could control the media and the

4218
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:43,200
conversation and also

4219
02:49:47,190 --> 02:49:45,600
the world agenda

4220
02:49:48,790 --> 02:49:47,200
like another covet thing

4221
02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:48,800
totally a hundred percent

4222
02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:51,120
you know what that's actually that's not

4223
02:49:54,950 --> 02:49:52,960
the worst idea

4224
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:54,960
yeah that's how i would do that see

4225
02:50:00,710 --> 02:49:59,120
that's why i should never be prez-o-dent

4226
02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:00,720
that's why i want to think about that

4227
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:01,840
that's i

4228
02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:04,080
honestly i have not uh i haven't thought

4229
02:50:06,790 --> 02:50:05,040
about that

4230
02:50:09,269 --> 02:50:06,800
variation that's a good one

4231
02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:09,279
yeah and i mean after kovalev it seems

4232
02:50:12,870 --> 02:50:11,520
like anything's possible

4233
02:50:14,710 --> 02:50:12,880
you know

4234
02:50:17,110 --> 02:50:14,720
let me give you a crazy

4235
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:17,120
example of when you just said wait

4236
02:50:20,230 --> 02:50:18,640
couldn't we track it couldn't we see it

4237
02:50:24,309 --> 02:50:20,240
what about listen

4238
02:50:27,110 --> 02:50:24,319
omua was in our solar system

4239
02:50:27,830 --> 02:50:27,120
nobody saw it after 11 days can't track

4240
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:27,840
it

4241
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:35,200
who we don't have radar systems you know

4242
02:50:39,910 --> 02:50:38,160
that can pick up no no no no that's not

4243
02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:39,920
how the world works

4244
02:50:45,710 --> 02:50:42,880
and omamoa disappeared it's gone we

4245
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:45,720
don't even know where it is and that was

4246
02:50:51,990 --> 02:50:49,200
2017. now flip it over in the opposite

4247
02:50:54,070 --> 02:50:52,000
direction if we say something is three

4248
02:50:56,710 --> 02:50:54,080
years out

4249
02:50:59,830 --> 02:50:56,720
that nobody there's no way

4250
02:51:01,670 --> 02:50:59,840
there's no way and that would be a a a

4251
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:01,680
real false flag

4252
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:03,600
it would be but that's that's that would

4253
02:51:08,950 --> 02:51:06,319
be like the rolls royce of false flags i

4254
02:51:11,110 --> 02:51:08,960
mean that's just uh

4255
02:51:13,269 --> 02:51:11,120
the thing about a real false flag is

4256
02:51:16,550 --> 02:51:13,279
there's always a risk it's a risky

4257
02:51:19,510 --> 02:51:16,560
operation because you can get caught

4258
02:51:21,110 --> 02:51:19,520
so the false flag could only happen

4259
02:51:23,349 --> 02:51:21,120
and the reason that the united states

4260
02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:23,359
has been the king of false flags since

4261
02:51:26,870 --> 02:51:24,960
world war ii is very simple is because

4262
02:51:29,590 --> 02:51:26,880
the united states has controlled and

4263
02:51:31,510 --> 02:51:29,600
dominated global media

4264
02:51:32,710 --> 02:51:31,520
like north korea can't really do a false

4265
02:51:34,389 --> 02:51:32,720
flag against the world because no one's

4266
02:51:36,710 --> 02:51:34,399
going to believe them they don't have

4267
02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:36,720
the control over the media even russia

4268
02:51:39,830 --> 02:51:38,319
be very difficult

4269
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:39,840
but the united states does them all the

4270
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:40,720
time

4271
02:51:45,269 --> 02:51:42,640
because the u.s has dominance over

4272
02:51:46,710 --> 02:51:45,279
global media so

4273
02:51:48,389 --> 02:51:46,720
this is going to be increasingly a

4274
02:51:51,590 --> 02:51:48,399
little more difficult so will the us be

4275
02:51:52,870 --> 02:51:51,600
able to do this over china and russia's

4276
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:52,880
skepticism

4277
02:51:56,070 --> 02:51:54,000
or are they going to are they going to

4278
02:51:58,070 --> 02:51:56,080
rope them into this

4279
02:52:00,150 --> 02:51:58,080
it's not necessarily the easiest thing

4280
02:52:01,190 --> 02:52:00,160
and then after the three years go by

4281
02:52:03,429 --> 02:52:01,200
what then

4282
02:52:05,670 --> 02:52:03,439
do you say oh well they've just

4283
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:05,680
gone no you've got three years and you

4284
02:52:09,750 --> 02:52:07,200
move on to something else you move on

4285
02:52:12,950 --> 02:52:09,760
something else you've got three years to

4286
02:52:15,110 --> 02:52:12,960
do whatever you want yeah that's true

4287
02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:15,120
the thing is the global dictatorship is

4288
02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:17,120
happening without an alien invasion

4289
02:52:21,590 --> 02:52:18,880
threat though that's the thing

4290
02:52:23,190 --> 02:52:21,600
i don't think it's be it's necessary

4291
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:23,200
they're just doing it

4292
02:52:27,349 --> 02:52:25,359
covet has taken us from like i don't

4293
02:52:28,870 --> 02:52:27,359
know the 30-yard line on our side of the

4294
02:52:30,469 --> 02:52:28,880
field down to like

4295
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:30,479
we're let now like we're backed up

4296
02:52:35,590 --> 02:52:33,600
against our own five yard line in the

4297
02:52:37,510 --> 02:52:35,600
right in the end zone and the enemies

4298
02:52:39,269 --> 02:52:37,520
coming at us like they've just moved the

4299
02:52:40,630 --> 02:52:39,279
ball way down the field in these last

4300
02:52:43,110 --> 02:52:40,640
two and a half years

4301
02:52:44,630 --> 02:52:43,120
yeah no they're so close to true

4302
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:44,640
i don't think we're backed up i think

4303
02:52:48,950 --> 02:52:47,040
that we the the governments we the

4304
02:52:51,429 --> 02:52:48,960
people are backed up the reds they moved

4305
02:52:55,190 --> 02:52:51,439
it into the red zone they almost made a

4306
02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:55,200
touchdown yes exactly yeah i missed yeah

4307
02:52:59,910 --> 02:52:58,240
we agree i'm not a sports guy

4308
02:53:01,349 --> 02:52:59,920
i am a sports guy believe it or not but

4309
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:01,359
i just yeah

4310
02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:03,520
what happened baseball guy you should

4311
02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:06,240
have done the baseball analogy

4312
02:53:09,349 --> 02:53:07,600
and you would have you would have

4313
02:53:11,030 --> 02:53:09,359
knocked it out of the park

4314
02:53:12,870 --> 02:53:11,040
i couldn't hit a curveball was my

4315
02:53:15,110 --> 02:53:12,880
problem

4316
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:15,120
but but um

4317
02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:16,479
if if

4318
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:18,800
the the reason for

4319
02:53:22,389 --> 02:53:21,040
uh a false flag at this point i think

4320
02:53:24,870 --> 02:53:22,399
that they're they're always in the

4321
02:53:27,269 --> 02:53:24,880
planning stages right they they've got a

4322
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:27,279
false flag playbook well

4323
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:28,880
it's not going to be an alien false flag

4324
02:53:32,230 --> 02:53:30,720
this summer no it's very different it's

4325
02:53:34,790 --> 02:53:32,240
a different false flag

4326
02:53:36,309 --> 02:53:34,800
geopolitical i don't want to say i think

4327
02:53:38,150 --> 02:53:36,319
something bad though

4328
02:53:39,510 --> 02:53:38,160
i think something bad like something

4329
02:53:40,870 --> 02:53:39,520
really bad

4330
02:53:41,830 --> 02:53:40,880
i'm afraid

4331
02:53:43,670 --> 02:53:41,840
actually

4332
02:53:46,230 --> 02:53:43,680
because because yeah because the

4333
02:53:47,349 --> 02:53:46,240
revolution must go forward for these

4334
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:47,359
people

4335
02:53:51,830 --> 02:53:50,160
and there's too much pushback

4336
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:51,840
i mean put yourself in the position of

4337
02:53:56,230 --> 02:53:54,319
like canada

4338
02:53:59,190 --> 02:53:56,240
and you've committed crimes against your

4339
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:59,200
countrymen your people like they can't

4340
02:54:03,030 --> 02:54:00,960
be allowed

4341
02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:03,040
to do a proper

4342
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:04,319
investigation they got the political

4343
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:06,080
system basically cow they got the media

4344
02:54:10,070 --> 02:54:08,080
they got the banks

4345
02:54:12,230 --> 02:54:10,080
they can't allow

4346
02:54:12,950 --> 02:54:12,240
this to be

4347
02:54:18,389 --> 02:54:12,960
like

4348
02:54:20,469 --> 02:54:18,399
and in the united states and in europe

4349
02:54:22,309 --> 02:54:20,479
and in every western country japan

4350
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:22,319
japan's not even they haven't had

4351
02:54:27,590 --> 02:54:25,120
sovereignty forever and australia

4352
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:27,600
these countries are just

4353
02:54:30,870 --> 02:54:29,439
there's such a tremendous amount of

4354
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:30,880
desire

4355
02:54:35,990 --> 02:54:33,680
for people to push back and

4356
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:36,000
they can't be allowed to see this is the

4357
02:54:38,950 --> 02:54:37,920
thing so i think to prevent that is

4358
02:54:40,150 --> 02:54:38,960
going to be

4359
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:40,160
an event

4360
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,279
that will be blamed against those people

4361
02:54:47,269 --> 02:54:45,600
and will be used against them

4362
02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:47,279
and then that'll be an easy opportunity

4363
02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:49,200
to rig elections which i do think we're

4364
02:54:53,830 --> 02:54:52,080
in an era of insecure elections which

4365
02:54:55,510 --> 02:54:53,840
we're not allowed to discuss you can't

4366
02:54:56,950 --> 02:54:55,520
ever discuss election integrity because

4367
02:55:00,710 --> 02:54:56,960
that makes you a bad person and you get

4368
02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:00,720
cancelled but this is the perfect time

4369
02:55:05,429 --> 02:55:02,960
for elections to become insecure and

4370
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:05,439
rigged this is the perfect time

4371
02:55:10,870 --> 02:55:08,479
all we need is is a pretext

4372
02:55:12,469 --> 02:55:10,880
can we go back to canada for a second

4373
02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:12,479
sure yeah

4374
02:55:16,150 --> 02:55:14,319
justin trudeau

4375
02:55:18,309 --> 02:55:16,160
now i don't do politics on the show but

4376
02:55:20,550 --> 02:55:18,319
i do the conspiracy of politics so let

4377
02:55:25,030 --> 02:55:20,560
me explain something

4378
02:55:27,910 --> 02:55:25,040
justin trudeau or anybody that is uh has

4379
02:55:30,309 --> 02:55:27,920
megalomanic uh tendencies

4380
02:55:32,550 --> 02:55:30,319
canada's the the wrong country for that

4381
02:55:36,950 --> 02:55:32,560
person to be in power because canadians

4382
02:55:40,469 --> 02:55:38,309
they're too at least controlled by the

4383
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:40,479
united states obviously he's not he's

4384
02:55:44,230 --> 02:55:41,520
not an independent player he's

4385
02:55:46,070 --> 02:55:44,240
controlled by the us and by davos

4386
02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:46,080
he's totally controlled by davos 100

4387
02:55:49,910 --> 02:55:48,080
percent well like i said you know

4388
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:49,920
canadians are just too well economic for

4389
02:55:52,550 --> 02:55:50,640
them

4390
02:55:54,710 --> 02:55:52,560
yeah yeah yeah

4391
02:55:56,469 --> 02:55:54,720
yeah this is this has been a long time

4392
02:55:59,269 --> 02:55:56,479
coming it's not just justin trudeau is

4393
02:56:02,870 --> 02:55:59,279
long precedes him do you think the false

4394
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:02,880
flag would happen though um in

4395
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:06,640
a third world situation i don't know i

4396
02:56:10,070 --> 02:56:08,880
think no i think in a western industrial

4397
02:56:13,910 --> 02:56:10,080
nation

4398
02:56:15,830 --> 02:56:13,920
you think so yeah for emotional impact

4399
02:56:17,429 --> 02:56:15,840
i mean i hope i'm wrong i i hope i am

4400
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:17,439
wrong

4401
02:56:21,750 --> 02:56:19,439
this is just this is me thinking it out

4402
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:21,760
and i have no inside information

4403
02:56:24,150 --> 02:56:23,279
nothing like that this is just what i

4404
02:56:26,790 --> 02:56:24,160
think

4405
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:26,800
well isn't that that's false flag 101

4406
02:56:30,389 --> 02:56:28,000
right when you're going down the check

4407
02:56:32,550 --> 02:56:30,399
boxes the top one is you got to have

4408
02:56:34,070 --> 02:56:32,560
where is the grandest amount of

4409
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:34,080
emotional impact

4410
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:35,439
right

4411
02:56:40,469 --> 02:56:37,840
yes you you want something traumatic

4412
02:56:42,550 --> 02:56:40,479
something right traumatic that really

4413
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:42,560
freaks people out that's right and you

4414
02:56:49,030 --> 02:56:45,120
want a high profile target

4415
02:56:51,190 --> 02:56:49,040
everyone recognized that is symbolic

4416
02:56:52,550 --> 02:56:51,200
value to people

4417
02:56:53,910 --> 02:56:52,560
don't you and of course you have a

4418
02:56:56,230 --> 02:56:53,920
narrative that will get rolled out

4419
02:56:58,790 --> 02:56:56,240
immediately so that the culprits are

4420
02:57:00,870 --> 02:56:58,800
instantly instantly identified and

4421
02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:00,880
targeted and may probably kill on the

4422
02:57:06,230 --> 02:57:03,040
spot because you don't want them to talk

4423
02:57:09,910 --> 02:57:06,240
do you think that false flags um

4424
02:57:13,030 --> 02:57:09,920
uh are starting to become

4425
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:13,040
uh a little ineffective because we're a

4426
02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:16,000
little wiser to what a false flag may be

4427
02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:17,840
or do you think that we can still be

4428
02:57:20,710 --> 02:57:19,120
snowed

4429
02:57:22,469 --> 02:57:20,720
you're a little wiser maybe the

4430
02:57:24,150 --> 02:57:22,479
listeners are a little wiser but most

4431
02:57:25,910 --> 02:57:24,160
people are not

4432
02:57:27,030 --> 02:57:25,920
and and most people like there are

4433
02:57:28,389 --> 02:57:27,040
people who will say everything's a

4434
02:57:30,550 --> 02:57:28,399
conspiracy but that doesn't mean that

4435
02:57:33,429 --> 02:57:30,560
they're any better educated either

4436
02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:33,439
there's a real lack of

4437
02:57:37,190 --> 02:57:35,200
i mean unfortunately a lack a lot of

4438
02:57:39,830 --> 02:57:37,200
lack of critical thinking by the general

4439
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:39,840
population thanks american educational

4440
02:57:43,349 --> 02:57:41,120
system

4441
02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:43,359
so um no i think it people are very

4442
02:57:46,710 --> 02:57:45,200
easily manipulated

4443
02:57:49,269 --> 02:57:46,720
unfortunately yeah

4444
02:57:52,230 --> 02:57:49,279
yeah yeah the kardashians bear a lot of

4445
02:57:54,469 --> 02:57:52,240
responsibility to that too have you seen

4446
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:54,479
uh and i don't say that in a facetious

4447
02:57:57,910 --> 02:57:56,720
manner did you see the movie don't look

4448
02:58:00,070 --> 02:57:57,920
up

4449
02:58:02,070 --> 02:58:00,080
i refuse to i have no desire oh no you

4450
02:58:04,389 --> 02:58:02,080
need to oh yeah i know we went through

4451
02:58:06,630 --> 02:58:04,399
we had this conversation but but there

4452
02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:06,640
is uh it would piss me off too much i

4453
02:58:10,389 --> 02:58:07,920
would be too annoyed

4454
02:58:12,070 --> 02:58:10,399
it it it's funny though and if you can't

4455
02:58:13,990 --> 02:58:12,080
laugh at yourself hollywood does not

4456
02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:14,000
know how to make good movies i mean i

4457
02:58:19,030 --> 02:58:15,359
just don't think they do

4458
02:58:24,230 --> 02:58:21,590
but here's my point richard

4459
02:58:26,790 --> 02:58:24,240
you're a guest yes sir i know you are

4460
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:26,800
right there's a character in the movie

4461
02:58:35,110 --> 02:58:31,359
her name is riley and um uh uh a pop

4462
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:35,120
star social media influencer right it

4463
02:58:38,710 --> 02:58:36,800
would fall under any number of

4464
02:58:40,070 --> 02:58:38,720
categories that we have here on this

4465
02:58:43,670 --> 02:58:40,080
planet right now

4466
02:58:44,870 --> 02:58:43,680
um but her influence and and how it's

4467
02:58:46,469 --> 02:58:44,880
handled

4468
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:46,479
in this

4469
02:58:51,269 --> 02:58:49,279
catastrophe this cosmic disaster that is

4470
02:58:53,429 --> 02:58:51,279
about to play out

4471
02:58:56,230 --> 02:58:53,439
that's our news source

4472
02:58:57,830 --> 02:58:56,240
right that's our newscaster

4473
02:58:59,590 --> 02:58:57,840
a kardashian

4474
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:59,600
no absolutely and i know the president

4475
02:59:02,710 --> 02:59:00,960
only cared like how does this help my

4476
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:02,720
ratings and this that yeah oh that's

4477
02:59:07,429 --> 02:59:04,960
true obviously we have you know a nation

4478
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:07,439
a pack of idiots running our country

4479
02:59:12,710 --> 02:59:09,760
yes so that part i would i'm sure is

4480
02:59:14,950 --> 02:59:12,720
true oh you'd love the movie

4481
02:59:17,750 --> 02:59:14,960
yeah i don't think so when you and tracy

4482
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:17,760
come out popcorn night we're gonna watch

4483
02:59:22,469 --> 02:59:20,240
uh don't look up all right

4484
02:59:24,230 --> 02:59:22,479
then we'll watch field of dreams uh for

4485
02:59:28,309 --> 02:59:24,240
you okay

4486
02:59:30,309 --> 02:59:28,319
that's a good movie it is

4487
02:59:31,429 --> 02:59:30,319
a wholesome movie the whole family can

4488
02:59:33,510 --> 02:59:31,439
enjoy

4489
02:59:35,510 --> 02:59:33,520
that is a family night

4490
02:59:37,190 --> 02:59:35,520
richard thank you so much my friend what

4491
02:59:39,349 --> 02:59:37,200
a great conversation give my best to

4492
02:59:41,269 --> 02:59:39,359
tracy it was great seeing and

4493
02:59:42,630 --> 02:59:41,279
talking to her too as well so just tell

4494
02:59:44,389 --> 02:59:42,640
her i said hello

4495
02:59:46,309 --> 02:59:44,399
enjoy the rest of your night i'll be

4496
02:59:48,150 --> 02:59:46,319
sending you some some stuff here in a

4497
02:59:50,230 --> 02:59:48,160
few minutes so you can't go to bed yet

4498
02:59:51,830 --> 02:59:50,240
okay it was it was my pleasure thank you

4499
02:59:53,510 --> 02:59:51,840
for having me on jimmy and always a

4500
02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:53,520
pleasure to be with the fader knots

4501
02:59:58,670 --> 02:59:55,520
you're the best man richard bleep and

4502
03:00:00,230 --> 02:59:58,680
dolan everybody please go to

4503
03:00:02,389 --> 03:00:00,240
richarddolanmembers.com the links are

4504
03:00:04,550 --> 03:00:02,399
below i've got them over on the website

4505
03:00:06,870 --> 03:00:04,560
we've got them in social media go check

4506
03:00:09,190 --> 03:00:06,880
out tracy and richard's new podcast

4507
03:00:11,429 --> 03:00:09,200
richard behave and be well my friend

4508
03:00:13,269 --> 03:00:11,439
thank you jimmy

4509
03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:13,279
what a great night on the show thank you

4510
03:00:16,950 --> 03:00:15,850
richard that is a perfect night

4511
03:00:18,870 --> 03:00:16,960
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4512
03:00:20,790 --> 03:00:18,880
i i mean i just can't say enough it's

4513
03:00:22,150 --> 03:00:20,800
richard bleep and dolan

4514
03:00:23,990 --> 03:00:22,160
perfect night on the show perfect

4515
03:00:26,309 --> 03:00:24,000
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4516
03:00:28,150 --> 03:00:26,319
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4517
03:00:29,830 --> 03:00:28,160
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4520
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4521
03:00:38,550 --> 03:00:36,840
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4522
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4523
03:00:43,190 --> 03:00:40,479
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4524
03:00:46,469 --> 03:00:43,200
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4525
03:00:49,190 --> 03:00:46,479
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4526
03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:49,200
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4527
03:00:52,710 --> 03:00:51,040
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4528
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4529
03:00:55,670 --> 03:00:54,240
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4530
03:00:57,750 --> 03:00:55,680
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4531
03:01:00,790 --> 03:00:57,760
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4532
03:01:04,710 --> 03:01:00,800
right here linda moulton howe

4533
03:01:07,430 --> 03:01:04,720
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4534
03:01:22,120 --> 03:01:07,440
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